Soviet Sniper Fixed ?

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2013, 22:21 PMBlovski

In addition to which, the 40 hp is just way too low. I've seen a few get ZiS sniped with just a normal shot, and any sort of indirect fire can basically just instakill them.

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 07:46 AMPapinak

Peter from Relic said that indirect fire is meant to be the counter to snipers.

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 08:07 AMNullist

He did? Oh lol...

Too bad then that Osts ONLY indirect fire option, is the humble Mortar.
GL hitting a Sniper with that before it relocates.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2013, 06:39 AMNullist

The 2x RoF unfortunately also means the Ost Sniper is necessarily revealed twice as often in order for it to perform its duties at equivalency to Sov Sniper, in relation to the larger Sov squad sizes.

This creates a internal handicap that sort of negates this "perk", to an extent.

Cover is so plentiful in this game that I find the longer camo out of cover to be a pretty superficial advantage. Makes micro moderately easier, but itsma "gimmicky" kind of thing that can just as easily be accomplished with movement through normal cover.

Id recommend:
-80 hp
-Change RoF to a quick double tap, with long reload after the two shots.
-Make Camo same as Sov.
-Increase its sight range above Sov Snipers

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 14:45 PMEkko Tek

Those suggested changes to the German sniper are beyond ridiculous.

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 15:50 PMNullist

So whats your suggestion?

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 16:56 PMMauser

Im just sad that they took away the nice sniper vs sniper battles we saw in coh1. In the current state counter-sniping is almost non existant, or well the german sniper hardly ever countersnipes the russian team. Few players even attempt it. I know the vet1 stun ability can work, but how will a german sniper reach vet 1 with a sov team roaming around. I think you need like 10-15 kills for vet 1 or something.

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 17:32 PMEkko Tek

Vet 1 depends on what you're shooting - might be 10+ kills if it's just conscripts but if you're sniping guard or shocks it comes much faster.

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 17:39 PMNullist

What does Vet have to do with that.

Its a factor of damage done (or received), not the cost of the killed unit.

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 07:46 AMPapinak

Peter from Relic said that indirect fire is meant to be the counter to snipers. The problem is, as you said, it works only against the german sniper. Also I remember from vCOH how many snipers died to AT guns in general until they finally fix this in some patch. It is however hard to say if snipers die to AT guns in COH2 cuz no one build german sniper and not so many soviets waist time with ZIS and PAK on the other hand gets very quickly decrewed.

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 21:13 PMBlovski

Well, he said that in the context of two Russian sniper teams supported by an SU-85 in the late game, which is fair.

My experience is that the German sniper can die to an awful lot of things the Russian sniper will easily get away with, and especially to things that shouldn't really result in a sniper death (like, a single conscript or engineer squad that he retreats from reasonably quickly, or a tank near-miss on retreat, or a single low-calibre mortar shell that isn't directly on target), as well as being radically less dangerous. I think 80HP would be a huge help with his survivability. Currently when I see a German sniper I suddenly feel very confident, while if I see a Soviet one I start having to think about counters.

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 22:16 PMEkko Tek

Doesn't 2 armour already basically = 80 HP?

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 22:16 PMEkko Tek

Doesn't 2 armour already basically = 80 HP?