Why no one complains about Bunker spam?

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2018, 21:01 PMZombiFrancis

Ah, so now you provide a bit more crucial information.

So what you're really asking is "how does a USF player handle two players where one spams bunkers and the other covers the position with mortars?"

Get your teammates to help.

You could also use something like a jeep to drive past those bunkers. Soviet clown cars and satchels also help, but since this appears to be a question for USF in a 2v1 situation, I'd say get out of the balance forums and use the state office.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2018, 21:10 PMArashenstein

I am talking about general team games. If anyone denies Axis is click to win (As long as it is not against full Soviet team) is just being a fanboy. The maps in this game are designed for comptomping as they offer no flanking chance in 3v3 and 4v4 and unlike COH1 here one MG burst completely pins down the entire units within its radius regardless if the MG is shooting at them or not. Then you bring smoke and get pass the bunker to attack it from behind but you face another bunker which is covering the back of the first bunker. I faced this against both US and Axis bunker spamming players. There is no difference if it is US being covered by soviet mortars and spamming fighting positions or it is Axis spamming bunker and being covered by mortars or infantry guns.

These things are issue and it shows the bad design of the game. Such strategies should punish the player badly for making such stupid moves but sadly mostly because of the map design and game design it is very rewarding.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2018, 21:10 PMArashenstein

I am talking about general team games. If anyone denies Axis is click to win (As long as it is not against full Soviet team) is just being a fanboy. The maps in this game are designed for comptomping as they offer no flanking chance in 3v3 and 4v4 and unlike COH1 here one MG burst completely pins down the entire units within its radius regardless if the MG is shooting at them or not. Then you bring smoke and get pass the bunker to attack it from behind but you face another bunker which is covering the back of the first bunker. I faced this against both US and Axis bunker spamming players. There is no difference if it is US being covered by soviet mortars and spamming fighting positions or it is Axis spamming bunker and being covered by mortars or infantry guns.

These things are issue and it shows the bad design of the game. Such strategies should punish the player badly for making such stupid moves but sadly mostly because of the map design and game design it is very rewarding.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2018, 17:43 PMMittens

you are wrong sir. Fighting position gets a slight increase but it does not match the OST/OKW bunker until you garrison it and therefor does not 'SelfSpot'.

Prove me wrong I guess?

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2018, 17:40 PMMongal

According to cheat mod 2 the OST mg bunker can see way further than the fighting pit. The mg bunker can even see past its firing range yet the fighting pit can not even see it full firing range without a spotter.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2018, 20:23 PMArashenstein

same people who said "maxim is fine l2p". I got my answer anyway, the answer is the players of COH2 unlike COH1 are not RTS skilled players they are just kids from Call of Duty who wanted to try a super casual pay to win game and came over here with cheesy tactics that outplays skilled tactics. That is why no one complains about bunker spam. If you had spent one second reading my post you could read in TEAM 3v3 and 4v4 games covered by mortar which means it gives you NO way to counter it because one player spams bunker the other one brings mortar and if you are US then good luck getting resources to unlock your AT gun and even if you do just two mortar shots are enough to kill the AT crew.

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2018, 09:47 AMblvckdream

3v3 and 4v4 is completly broken and retarded anyways. I think bunkers are the smallest problem in these game modes. Every single game becomes a blob/arty/spamfest and there is nothing you can do but blob more and spam more indirect fire.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2018, 18:55 PMaaa

Clamin that mortars and esp. Atg are solid counter pto bunkers is insane.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2018, 18:38 PMAlphrum

why would someone put an mg behind a shot blocker, the mg is guna block its own vision

Bunker spam is easily counted and its not free on the axis side

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2018, 08:32 AMzarok47

That's not how this works.

You make the claim, you prove it.

I'm not going to do your work for you, especially since you're well known to claim random stuff without the slightest back-up (cough ISU cough).



The game files list the same sight upgrade for both bunkers and fighting positions.
Did you contruct the fighting position with the RE's or did you somehow spawn it?

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2018, 14:21 PMzarok47

that's weird, why would garrisoning the fighting position trigger the extended sight (to the same extent as the bunker).

The gamefiles list the exact same sight upgrade for both bunker and fighting position, thus this should not be happening.

Either the fighting position is weird/bugged or the bunker is.

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2018, 14:37 PMMittens

The Fighting position is weird. Could be the base stats for the bunkers are different for LOS so when they get the sight upgrade they disproportional have an effect on their max LOS? They have the same base value for their LOS meaning its something wrong with the upgrade or intended.

Either way I don't think both should self spot unless garrisoned but then again the fighting position gets the free riflenade with it so maybe its fair, just god damn annoying the OST suppresses so fast and has such a wide AOE with it.

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2018, 14:21 PMzarok47

The gamefiles list the exact same sight upgrade for both bunker and fighting position, thus this should not be happening.