I can't take it anymore. They're indestructible. Someone watch this stupid game and tell me how 3 man half health maxims repeatedly take bundled nades to face, refuse to die in the face of vet falls fire, and just keep coming back like gren zombies from COH1.
Replay: This crap!
It's almost as bad as this old video:
What is it with Maxims these days?
8 Feb 2018, 06:20 AM
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8 Feb 2018, 06:28 AM
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they got nerfed to the ground a few patches ago
8 Feb 2018, 07:05 AM
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From the beginning it has always been moving in mysterious ways thanks to the deathloop
But I think it's all right. (6 men offset the deathloop )
But I think it's all right. (6 men offset the deathloop )
8 Feb 2018, 08:30 AM
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they got nerfed to the ground a few patches ago
They got buffed back into spam mode last patch.
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
8 Feb 2018, 09:40 AM
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A) This video is from 2013! So maybe make customgame and try it now again
B) In the 2 try the mg was not in yellow cover! It was sitting infront of the cover and his crew was behind the cover. And well not 4man squad with full Health
C) Yes Maxims deal more damage then mg42. But mg42 pinns better and has more "side-range" from left to right.
New maxims are good. Not OP and not UP. Best way for wehrmacht--> Using mortar and flamerhft
B) In the 2 try the mg was not in yellow cover! It was sitting infront of the cover and his crew was behind the cover. And well not 4man squad with full Health
C) Yes Maxims deal more damage then mg42. But mg42 pinns better and has more "side-range" from left to right.
New maxims are good. Not OP and not UP. Best way for wehrmacht--> Using mortar and flamerhft
9 Feb 2018, 03:40 AM
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From the beginning it has always been moving in mysterious ways thanks to the deathloop
But I think it's all right. (6 men offset the deathloop )
U2 is mad gay, yo.
Tobis "Complete Throw"
Someone asked what my avatar was from... I really don't know.
Defeated Paula and knocked him out of 2v2 Anniversary Cup
Someone asked what my avatar was from... I really don't know.
Defeated Paula and knocked him out of 2v2 Anniversary Cup
9 Feb 2018, 05:11 AM
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U2 is mad gay, yo.
I guess Tobis is one of those tween wave guys.
9 Feb 2018, 08:09 AM
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Permanently BannedIt should be an obvious indicator that if zarok gets into top 30 soviets maxims are too good, simple as that
9 Feb 2018, 10:21 AM
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C) Yes Maxims deal more damage then mg42. But mg42 pinns better and has more "side-range" from left to right.
IIRC MG42s suffer much more from supression and pinning than the Maxim DPS wise.
Also I watched the replay, you do know that grenades do less damage when a squad is in open cover, right? If you know that why are you wasting muni, when you can just walk closer with falls and deathloop the maxim?
Also being afk for the first minute doesnt help either.
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9 Feb 2018, 17:20 PM
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IIRC MG42s suffer much more from supression and pinning than the Maxim DPS wise.
Also I watched the replay, you do know that grenades do less damage when a squad is in open cover, right? If you know that why are you wasting muni, when you can just walk closer with falls and deathloop the maxim?
Also being afk for the first minute doesnt help either.
Are you sure? I thought in coh1 cover amplified grenades but in coh2 the only mechanic was if the projectile crossed green cover it only did 50% damage. Happy to be corrected.
Personally I think soviet need to have slightly higher reinforce costs for a number of units so they bleed a little more to compensate for their resilience against squad wipes. I don’t feel any of their units are that op (besides sniper) but they just need to be less efficient to slow the spam
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9 Feb 2018, 18:41 PM
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A) This video is from 2013! So maybe make customgame and try it now againthe problem is that mg don't benefit from cover this patch so maxim might beat mg 42 in green cover some times
B) In the 2 try the mg was not in yellow cover! It was sitting infront of the cover and his crew was behind the cover. And well not 4man squad with full Health
C) Yes Maxims deal more damage then mg42. But mg42 pinns better and has more "side-range" from left to right.
New maxims are good. Not OP and not UP. Best way for wehrmacht--> Using mortar and flamerhft
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9 Feb 2018, 20:33 PM
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Posts: 911
Are you sure? I thought in coh1 cover amplified grenades but in coh2 the only mechanic was if the projectile crossed green cover it only did 50% damage. Happy to be corrected.
Personally I think soviet need to have slightly higher reinforce costs for a number of units so they bleed a little more to compensate for their resilience against squad wipes. I don’t feel any of their units are that op (besides sniper) but they just need to be less efficient to slow the spam
By less damage I mean due to squad spacing it will hit less entities.
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9 Feb 2018, 20:40 PM
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the problem is that mg don't benefit from cover this patch so maxim might beat mg 42 in green cover some times
Isn't that the other way round now ? Wasn't the maxim/50 cal bugged but the MG34/42 not ?
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And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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10 Feb 2018, 11:47 AM
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i have done the test for all mg they don't get bonus cover for the model with mg (you can try ur self just make 2 mg fight behind green cover they will get suppressed), after futher testing i found out that mg42 and 34 show the green shield but only 50% of the time get cover so they are still bugged
Isn't that the other way round now ? Wasn't the maxim/50 cal bugged but the MG34/42 not ?
katitof-2018
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10 Feb 2018, 22:34 PM
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Lol, I know that video was from 2013, read original post please. It's my video.
Well, if it's a cover/no cover issue, that should be fixed, expensive bundled grenades should not do that little damage. And maybe change the arc back to the way it was on release, they're really damn hard to flank now, best you can do is get a nade in and retreat. They're just too durable.
I'm just playing Sov to troll now anyway. I can't believe I'd ever say this, but US and Brit feel a lot more balanced now.
But Sov has been OP from release, it never seems to change. They've always got something. It's the cheese faction, but it used to be the cheese was more high risk/reward, now they're just a very good combined arms army with crucial edges over all the other factions.
Well, if it's a cover/no cover issue, that should be fixed, expensive bundled grenades should not do that little damage. And maybe change the arc back to the way it was on release, they're really damn hard to flank now, best you can do is get a nade in and retreat. They're just too durable.
I'm just playing Sov to troll now anyway. I can't believe I'd ever say this, but US and Brit feel a lot more balanced now.
But Sov has been OP from release, it never seems to change. They've always got something. It's the cheese faction, but it used to be the cheese was more high risk/reward, now they're just a very good combined arms army with crucial edges over all the other factions.
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