SU-85, KV-8, T-70, T-34 Thread
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SU-85
-Increase Cost to 175 Fuel
-Reduce Frontal Armor
-Decrease Move speed both forward and back
-Slow rotation
-Decrease Damage
-Remove True sight ability
KV-8
-Reduce Infantry Damage
-Reduce Armor
-Reduce Move speed
-5 CPs to access
-Increase Fuel cost to 175
T-70
-Reduce Move speed
-Reduce Range
-Reduce Infantry Damage
T-34
-Reduce Infantry Damage
-Remove Ram ability
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From what I gather the following changes would balance the game.
SU-85
-Increase Cost to 175 Fuel
-Reduce Frontal Armor
-Decrease Move speed both forward and back
-Slow rotation
-Decrease Damage
-Remove True sight ability
KV-8
-Reduce Infantry Damage
-Reduce Armor
-Reduce Move speed
-5 CPs to access
-Increase Fuel cost to 175
T-70
-Reduce Move speed
-Reduce Range
-Reduce Infantry Damage
T-34
-Reduce Infantry Damage
-Remove Ram ability
I love that how to "balance" the game, you picked out every call for Soviet nerfs, neglected rebalancing buffs (I see this in your call for solely nerfs on the T-34... really?), and while neglecting to mention anything that needs looked at on the German side (*cough* MG's).
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From what I gather the following changes would balance the game.
SU-85
-Increase Cost to 175 Fuel
-Reduce Frontal Armor
-Decrease Move speed both forward and back
-Slow rotation
-Decrease Damage
-Remove True sight ability
KV-8
-Reduce Infantry Damage
-Reduce Armor
-Reduce Move speed
-5 CPs to access
-Increase Fuel cost to 175
T-70
-Reduce Move speed
-Reduce Range
-Reduce Infantry Damage
T-34
-Reduce Infantry Damage
-Remove Ram ability
So make Soviet tanks useless...
You guys really want to remove all the challenges facing Germans players for the easy win. No point in playing the game anymore at this point.
SU-85
-Decrease Move speed both forward and back
-Slow rotation
KV-8
-Reduce Armor
-5 CPs to access
-Increase Fuel cost to 175
T-70
-Reduce Range
T-34
- Cant get any worse.
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Permanently BannedAnd stop making fake accounts.
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So i think you play ostheer.....
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Nothing wrong with MGs that isnt also wrong with Maxims.
The term you are looking for is HMG.
KV8 and SU85 need nerfing.
I cant think of any Ostheer armor that does.
Especially the Stug needs buffing.
I'm not saying KV-8 and SU-85 don't need rebalanced. I'm pointing out how completely one sided the OP's statement is. His claim to balance the game apparently hinges on the complete nerfing of everything on the Soviet side. Never mind the abuse of "HMG's" (to correct me on this is really nit-picky tbh), which come onto the field long before Soviets have a good way of dealing with it, especially in garrisons, and bunkers in team games, which require tanks or 360 MP of anti tank weaponry to remove something only costing 150 MP.
Who's making fake accounts?
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To counter german tanks who crush your infantry soviets needs good AT and the only one is Su-85 now.
Soviet KV-8 and ISU 152 can crush Gren and PGren easily but soviet needs to play with many differents troops to be effective. Otheers no needs to be flexible like soviets for win a game.
MG Gren and PIv can win a game but conscript maxim and t34 can't , that's all.
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If you did more than two of those SU-85 changes you would severely hamper soviet AT options. Not too mention if you added the other "Balancing changes" to the other three tanks.
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In all seriousness though, what really needs balancing on the german side?? I cant think of anything (as an old german player that switched to sovs for last 100+ games) that is grossly unbalanced and cheesy besides mg spam (which can easily be beat when recognized). When I play the sovs I stay away from su85s and clowncars with snipers because, well, it makes game much less fun. It makes for some real great games too, t34s supplemented with at guns, I love it! I still get snipers because its fun to do. But the kv8 and su85? Common sovs, its obvious those things need work. When I mean work I mean nerfs. And yes, t34 and atguns need buff. Stop with the trolling and admit when something needs balancing. I know its easy to get su85s and kv8s out and win, but fdo you really enjoy that simple play?
I am extremely pleased to hear that you are capable of winning games with your excellent positioning and map control augmented by your AT-Gun and T-34 Micro. Clearly you are in line with the idea that these balance changes would be good for the game! If you agree with the satire post excellent you are the VCOH German player who wishes that the Soviets were the Americans!
The simple fact of the matter is that they are not and to be entirely honest I am extremely impressed that you go T-1 through 3 and your German Opponent cannot even compete with you! Russian units will forever be viewed by players such as yourself as gimmicky or OP and I am truly sorry that you feel that way.
I am not stating that no changes need to be made however don't beat your EPEEN all over a forum post that clearly is not serious, go win more games and insult people there.
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