It is time for the OH MG bunker to cost popcap

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2018, 05:36 AMkitekaze

I don't know how people can defend OST MG bunker (and OKW with fortification doc) when it become serious meta right now, especially bigger team game. It's extremely annoying just to flush out those mg bunkers defending victory point. Of every axis players I encounter, all of them resort to MG bunker spam, no spare.

MG bunker spam is worst as Brit Emplacement spam. Just imagine Brit Emplacement with 0 popcap - you know how terrible it is. At least, Brit have big manpower and fuel cost slap along with it. If you can complain one side, why not other?

US MG emplacement can have pop cap as well, at least it's ten time easier to dislodge an US emplacement when I'm playing as axis.

Counter? Possible. But when late game hit with Jagdtiger/Elefant and bunches of rocket artillery, all allies counter options become invalid. You just have to over skill your opponent or become salty.

Either you are axis fanboi wanting to abuse it or just playing 1v1 and claiming it's not a problem.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2018, 12:07 PMDangerous-Cloth

You people forget that Ost needs to build a bunker to get the weakest healing in game for 60 munitions. You now want this to cost popcap too? Lol get out of here.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2018, 22:45 PMAceOfTitanium

I see how mg bunker/fighting position spam can a bit too much but making those take popcap isn't the best way to solve this. Maybe have a limited number of them being available to build would be better at preventing these from being spamed.

Something similar to this would also be my solution to the brit op emplacements.

Jump back to quoted post15 Dec 2017, 08:06 AMjagd wölfe

Like US fighting position ?

If anything a pioneer squad inside should get rifle grenade free =)

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2018, 00:18 AMVipper

In my opinion these defenses (emplacement, okw AA guns maybe hmg bunker)could get increasingly bigger penalties for being spammed.

Price and POP could increase according to number being built on map.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2018, 10:36 AMAceOfTitanium

I'm not a big fan of increasing resources over a number of units/time. It is much more intuitive if you could only have a max of, let say, 4/5 bunkers/fighting positions and only 1 of each type of brit emplacement (seeing how they are op as individual units) per game per player. It's a way easier solution to implement and less complicated for players to understand.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2018, 17:06 PMkitekaze

Read the topic title carefully, will you? MG bunker.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2018, 10:51 AMVipper

Limiting emplacement to 1 actually more complicated because commander like:
Royal engineer
Advance emplacement

would have to be redesigned. One would also have to add a way to get read of emplacements and a refund.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2018, 12:56 PMArray

On topic I still don’t see the issue with it. The people punished most by it are blobbers who get their whole blob suppressed and sent home, because their double bar/been blob can’t kill it frontally like a normal mg. Otherwise it scares off a scouting squad and prevents opportunistic capping at which point you send something to kill it for free xp. If a team has the time , space and resources to spam them before armour makes them obsolete then the allies aren’t doing their job.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2018, 13:22 PMAceOfTitanium

... Another thing is that if a player spams bunkers late game he doesnt really need infantry, he only needs pionners to repair and tanks.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2018, 13:33 PMVipper

If ostheer infantry was not that easy to evaporate in late game people might actually build them in late game instead of making pioneers (and bunkers).

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2018, 13:33 PMVipper

If ostheer infantry was not that easy to evaporate in late game people might actually build them in late game instead of making pioneers (and bunkers).

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2018, 13:39 PMArray

Bunkers can’t survive late game with armour and artillery in play. 60 range td’s in particular eliminate them for 0 risk. Late game I normally find I only build pioneers because I need the cheapest unit I can to recreate my dead team weapons and fix my broken vehicles. As vipper? Said my other infantry is already dead and replacing them with vet 0 squads isn’t going to help

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2018, 13:44 PMAceOfTitanium

In theory you could destroy bunkers with tank destroyers but in pratic it doesn't work. You shoot one or two times the bunker and a tank or at gun shoots your td. Mortars work a little better but as I said you might really need them somewere else instead of being the entire game killing side bunkers. Don't get me wrong I don't have problems with bunkers I just have a problem with 5+ of them blocking part of the map.