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Zansibar
6 Dec 2017, 17:18 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 12:47 PMullumulu


E8 is the best medium tank...its abilitys, firepower, fast speed, armor, hp, reload time, strong vs every target, self repair, smoke etc...its nearly too cheap for its performanche.

a horde of 3-4 e8 can easily destroy some targets and can fast retreat and drive around the map to attack at a other spot...
Are you joking?

Its considered one of the most pointless call ins in the game. Its litterally just a slightly better Panzer IV.

"Strong against every target" Nope, the Panther and Tiger steamrolls over it.

Its perfectly priced.

"a horde of 3-4 e8 can easily destroy some targets and can fast retreat" You wanna tell me that 3 Panthers cant to the same at a slightly lower price?
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Stug life
6 Dec 2017, 17:28 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 13:12 PMSupremeStefan
Aaaand Leig Cost further decreased from 300 to 270 ? Total bullshit. Usf howitzer still not touched and now sniping leig costs like mortar with extra smoke and napalm if needed. Okw leigfest is coming back
????? did they not reduce the pop cap ?
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Stug life
6 Dec 2017, 17:34 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 17:13 PMZansibar
The Leig is 270 MP but the Pack Howitzer is 380 MP in the 1.7 test version, this makes no sense. The Pack Howitzer must get a price decrease.

Also the ost Panzer IV is better than M4A3 (76) at a lower cost, this makes no sense either.

Buff the M4A3 (76) performance and give it more pen, equally that of the E8.
for one thing you never asked buff to 76mm until it was in usf doc so i guess you realize something is up/op only if its USF butleaving that aside leig is much worse than live and cost 270 for 4 man crew pack has 6 man so you pay the extra man too althought i would lower the reinforce cost but not the upfront
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SkysTheLimit
6 Dec 2017, 17:50 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 07:04 AMjagd wölfe

was he talking about DBP ?


Uhhh, given the thread title...
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ClassyDavid
6 Dec 2017, 17:52 PM
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I know it is too late to change pack howie but are there any future changes planned for it?
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Swift
6 Dec 2017, 17:52 PM
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Invissed three posts. I hope this patch comes out soon because I'm tired of the shit people are throwing round this thread. Basic courtesy isn't expensive.
The internal battery has run dry, the game can now be played. However, clock based events will no longer occur.
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jagd wölfe
6 Dec 2017, 19:44 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 17:13 PMZansibar
The Leig is 270 MP but the Pack Howitzer is 380 MP in the 1.7 test version, this makes no sense. The Pack Howitzer must get a price decrease.

Also the ost Panzer IV is better than M4A3 (76) at a lower cost, this makes no sense either.

Buff the M4A3 (76) performance and give it more pen, equally that of the E8.


No again, 76mm sherman has an insane rof compared to other mediums, especially with veterancy...
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SupremeStefan
6 Dec 2017, 20:35 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 17:34 PMStug life
for one thing you never asked buff to 76mm until it was in usf doc so i guess you realize something is up/op only if its USF butleaving that aside leig is much worse than live and cost 270 for 4 man crew pack has 6 man so you pay the extra man too althought i would lower the reinforce cost but not the upfront

Wow 6man crew but die when 2left and that price for something late and maybe slightly better than mortar
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Stug life
6 Dec 2017, 20:53 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 20:35 PMSupremeStefan

Wow 6man crew but die when 2left and that price for something late and maybe slightly better than mortar
"slightly" http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=m1_81mm_mortar_squad_mp
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=m1_75mm_pack_howitzer_squad_mp
if this is slightly ober and cons must be the same to you
wow can die when 2 left just like the leig wow ans all the other mortar
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Zansibar
6 Dec 2017, 21:16 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 19:44 PMjagd wölfe


No again, 76mm sherman has an insane rof compared to other mediums, especially with veterancy...


It doesnt, its barely faster at 4.1 t0 4.3 compare to the P4 thats 5.1 to 5.3.
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Zansibar
6 Dec 2017, 21:26 PM
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So far we have learned that the Panther is worse durability wise compared to the E8 and that the cheap and buffed Leig at 270 is justified because of muh 6 man crew Pack Howitzer at 380mp.

And these people cry all day that others are biased, give me a break.
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Stug life
6 Dec 2017, 22:04 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 21:26 PMZansibar
So far we have learned that the Panther is worse durability wise compared to the E8 and that the cheap and buffed Leig at 270 is justified because of muh 6 man crew Pack Howitzer at 380mp.

And these people cry all day that others are biased, give me a break.
wait buffed ? do you even read the patchnote, leig was nerfed, and so people who disagre with you are biased right ? here we like facts and stats
dude here are the stats http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=m4a3e8_sherman_easy_8_squad_mp
i'm not linking the panther cuase 1 you can search it yourself on the site 2 you wouldn't even look at it like you did with the link i posted for pack
you can see 1 second faster reload , more accuracy,and 0.13 cd time (panther has 1+) and can actually hit infatry with soem good aoe , and this is only the main gun all for a tank that cost less than panther and who said it has more durability than panther ? thats the only thing that the panther has and it got nerfed too , still it has 200+ armor and 720 hp and is way more than panzer 4 so dont come here sperging your bias and saying that p4 is almost the same when even you are starting to compare it to the panther
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Dangerous-Cloth
6 Dec 2017, 22:52 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 21:26 PMZansibar
So far we have learned that the Panther is worse durability wise compared to the E8 and that the cheap and buffed Leig at 270 is justified because of muh 6 man crew Pack Howitzer at 380mp.

And these people cry all day that others are biased, give me a break.


Ostheer panther is in a 'good' spot bro.
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Dangerous-Cloth
6 Dec 2017, 22:53 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2017, 16:46 PMShadowLinkX37


all good. balancing different modes with the same stats and resources. :facepalm:


Yep, it will never work. That is why I don't get why they even try to balance team games above 2v2.
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