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I think its supposed to be more of a ez8 for soviets, and IIRC it has a smaller AOE. I actually think this makes more sense, as t34s already do a good job with infantry.
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So then it will be conscripts (now the penals of current patch) into maxims (now a subpar dhsk of the current patch) into m4c spam lol. I understand what you are trying to accomplish by these changes, but unfortunately it won't change anything...
Or would you tie all call ins to teching?
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Its also got that wicked rate of fire through vet though and fairly low pen as-is. I feel like going that way would compete with the T34/85. Either way, as long as its not being called-in and has a role, I'll be happy with it.
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So what? Remove machine guns kappa? All tank call-ins should be tech. We could talk about stalling for Pershing or tiger too.
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Again, all call-in tanks should be locked behind tech.
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The problem is not the mgs, but rather the 6 men weapon teams. Insanely hard to wipe.
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So then it will be conscripts (now the penals of current patch) into maxims (now a subpar dhsk of the current patch) into m4c spam lol. I understand what you are trying to accomplish by these changes, but unfortunately it won't change anything...
Or would you tie all call ins to teching?
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But if you have Cons and (useful) Maxims you wont need Dshkas anymore, so probably we would see the good old guard-motor commander picked every game again, for elite infantry and cheap t34-85 spam. If thats better than the current meta, I dont know. How to fix this? Well, I guess whoever figures out how to deal with call-ins deserves a medal...
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Agreed.
With all respect, but saying DHSK performance is fine and doesn´t need a nerf is pushing any form of intellect to the brink of extinction. Just because something is a call in and expensive shouldn´t warrent it being overpowered. Or should we make the Tiger Ace return to its former glory? I mean its 800 mp and comes at 17cp!! Command Panther comes at 11 cp and costs 225 fuel and above 500 mp, better make that overpowered too then huh?
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I tell why are the problem, soviet from 2013 was meat/zerg faction. But now, soviet have just more better units compared to axis side.
I agree about that if unit are callin its not make him fine. But how you whanna change DSHK ? Make 2 CP HMG like vickers or 50 cal ?
Its still mg that counter with flank and mortars, with light vehicles if tis flanking.
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Hmmm I still think that locking call-ins behind tech would be too great a nerf for the Allies, considering that they have the majority of call-in vehicles.
Maybe not for the UKF or USF as their high tier units are decent. T4 for USSR feels useless save for the Katyusha.
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Well there was no hesitation what so ever to lock the KT behind tech and (most annoyingly) commander pick.
I don't think it would be a nerf, it would just stop stalling; Which is a serious problem. If they aren't going to be locked behind tech they need a serious cool down nerf (all factions) so call in units can't be spammed. Pointless intels like the JT call in cool down reduction need to be replaced with something too.
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KT is still non-doctorinal unit, which anyone can get eventualy.
Plus, it can be called-in multiple times after its death (while in vCOH, once you lost it, you were screwed). Cannot compare KT to commander call-ins really...
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KT is still non-doctorinal unit, which anyone can get eventualy. Plus, it can be called-in multiple times after its death (while in vCOH, once you lost it, you were screwed). Cannot compare KT to commander call-ins really...
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Why not just lock every single call-in vehicle behind tech? So that you can call in the vehicle only if you
1.) got enough CP and
2.) built the associated tech building
(but the vehicle will still remain an off-map call-in)
Locked behind T4: M4C Sherman, KV 8, IS2, KV1, KV2, ISU 152, Pershing, Sherman Calliope, M10 Tank Destroyer, Sherman Bulldozer, Churchill Crocodile, Churchill AVRE, Sexton Howitzer (For UKF this is T3), Command Panther, Ostwind, JT, Flame Hetzer, Tiger, Elefant
Locked behind T3: M5 Halftrack assault group (Sov), both M5s (USF), Greyhound, Puma (Ostheer), Stug E
Sorry if someone suggested the exact same before, didn't read through the whole thread.
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