how do you solve the lack of late game arty ?

Jump back to quoted post16 May 2017, 23:35 PMLoopDloop

First of all, ju87 at strafe is literally click to kill at least one medium instantly. If that's not cheese, I don't know what is.

Wait p47 is a problem? It's so damn bad, unless that's what you mean. Don't know much about zeroing artillery other than get the fuck out of the circle

Jump back to quoted post16 May 2017, 20:56 PMOutsider_Sidaroth

By all means, make P47s as appropiate as the JU87s and watch how long it takes for there be trending "meme" posts about Allies having skill planes like the Germans.

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2017, 09:42 AMmediev

It is not click to kill, unless the medium is already damaged/snared. It costs 200 muni that you have to save somewhere else, and Ostheer is very munitions hungry. If it did anything less, there would no point to using it whatsoever, for the cost at least. As to the second point, yeah, that is exactly what I meant. Every ability should be WORTH ITS COST. That is the basic principle of a balanced game. If you spend 240 muni on P47s or 300 muni on Zeroing Arty and get nothing out of it, that ability is pointless to have. I mean, instead of spending 240 on P47s for instance, you can throw grenades all the time or upgrade your troops with BARs and zooks, which will help you enormously throughout the match, whereas if you save for the P47s, you don´t get sh*t.

Jump back to quoted post17 May 2017, 14:44 PMLoopDloop

Ju87 can definitely take out undamaged mediums and tds in a single pass. That's a straight fact. Also I would argue that usf is far more munition hungry because they have to feed expensive weapon upgrades (double bar is 120 per squad, double zooks is 100) and constant smoke and grenade spam. As ostheer I run a sniper and 1-2 panzergrenadiers for anti infantry, with maybe 2 grens and mg42 as support. That's hardly any muni unless you spam bundled nades or rifle nades, but it's a very munitions efficient army. As usf on the other hand, I go 3 rifles, an officer (usually captain), and maybe one squad of paras or rangers and RETs for zooks and maybe a .50 and/or pathfinders w/o upgrades in support. For full upgrades that's 670 munitions, for half bars, double zooks (1 zook is stupid) and Thompsons that's 430, which is probably a more fair estimate as double bar rifles are terminators, but for good reason seeing the expense. That's using 0 grenades. As ostheer, I buy lmg42s for my grens and use paks for at till I get an elefant or a ton of stugs.

Jump back to quoted post19 May 2017, 18:55 PMZombiFrancis

Any faction that can lay mines should be considered a muni hungry faction.

Jump back to quoted post19 May 2017, 23:02 PMLoopDloop

So everyone but USF? Because USF totally doesnt need muni kappa.

Jump back to quoted post20 May 2017, 20:08 PMZombiFrancis

I was more making the point that there's always room to spend muni on mines.

Jump back to quoted post18 May 2017, 06:30 AMEsxile

Ostheer is starving munition early game when you need to decide if you want an early MG42 or Medic bunker or teller mine. Once you have your medic bunker and equi 2xMG42, you're not really starving anymore.
USF isn't starving munition until you unlock BAR/Zook or decide to go grenade.