Why some Russians hate COH2 [BadComedian]

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:17 PMBuzzCutPsycho

As history has shown the Soviet ideology proved to be just as harmful (arguably more) than that of the Nazis.

Some people like to take a modern "progressive" and "politically correct" stance on the subject of East and West but the cold hard facts are that the Soviet Union and all PACT countries were the bad guys and have caused harm to the world that is still felt to this day. Like it or not the East were and continue to be the "bad guys" and no amount of sugar coating and history denial will change that.

The world is a better place without the Soviet Union. The world would have been a better place if the Germans had succeeded in their supposed goal of "racial genocide" (which wasn't the goal) against the Soviet Union.

the name of the game is COMPANY OF HEROES

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:25 PMThe_rEd_bEar

What did you think the Germans invaded for? To save the soviet people from the clutches of the Stalinist?

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:25 PMThe_rEd_bEar

If the nazis won, all Soviets would have been killed, deported, or sent to work/death camps.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:36 PMGeneralCH

Actually they did that in the beginning and people were very happy about that. However one regime was replaced by another one and vice versa after the war.
Main reason for invasion was to remove the only possible ally left, to force england into a peace treaty.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:36 PMGeneralCH

Sounds like soviet propaganda to me.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:36 PMGeneralCH

Actually they did that in the beginning and people were very happy about it. However one regime was replaced by another one and vice versa after the war.
Main reason for invasion was to remove the only possible ally left, to force england into a peace treaty.


Sounds like propaganda.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:36 PMGeneralCH

Actually they did that in the beginning and people were very happy about it. However one regime was replaced by another one and vice versa after the war.
Main reason for invasion was to remove the only possible ally left, to force england into a peace treaty.


Sounds like propaganda.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:34 PMUGBEAR

The fact is, company of heroes 2 should show bravery and courage like company of heroes 1, that's why those epic bringers call their game company of heroes.......

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:34 PMundostrescuatro

2 people raised differently, with different beliefs and culture. yet we think the same about the game campaign.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:36 PMGeneralCH

Actually they did that in the beginning and people were very happy about it. However one regime was replaced by another one and vice versa after the war.
Main reason for invasion was to remove the only possible ally left, to force england into a peace treaty.


Sounds like propaganda.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:51 PMGeneralCH

Dont watch youtube videos, read history books and alot of them. Then make up your mind.
Dont try to push me into a racist corner.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:51 PMGeneralCH

Dont watch youtube videos, read history books and alot of them. Then make up your mind.
Dont try to push me into a racist corner.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:53 PMscratchedpaintjob

would you actually be so kind and tell us, which of our points is wrong?

the statement at the end shows just a little bit, but, as i have stated, showing only the bravery at the eastern front would have been wrong. actually there is a mix between heroes and evils in the campaign!

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 22:12 PMSymbiosis

I stopped watching halfway. I agree the perspective on the campaign doesn't really improve the image of the Red Army and the USSR, but the way the video is made is just as misleading. He is also using incorrect facts and linking mission descriptions with video's from other missions that had nothing to do with the original mission and just misleading the audience. Like completely ignoring the first part of Guderian's quote which actually proves the opposite of what Bad Comedian is saying. This video is just a blatant way of bashing relic after he was discontent with the campaign plot.

Relic stated from the beginning they wanted to show the brutishness and cruelty of the eastern front. And to achieve that goal they used a story that could show all that yet it would not give a representative image of the Red Army. Once you accept that this is not their portrayal of the whole Russian Army it shouldn't be a problem placing the plot in it's right perspective. Not every partizan got shot by the Russians, maybe this happend just once and I agree that this is cruel and portrays those Russian soldier/their commander as cold killers, but relic picked that story since they thought it supported their plot. And you are free to like the story or not, just like a movie, but a lot seem to ignore that this is just one story of a few people that does not represent the Red Army in general but in a way in which relic is able to tell their story about the harsh east front.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 22:22 PMSymbiosis

About the title, in the end, the main character is very much portrayed as a hollywood hero which pretty much still justifies the name Company of Heroes...

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 22:47 PMNoun

There has constantly been a lively debate in the US, and other nations, about the morality of the use of the atomic bombs. I think that sort of thing is healthy, having this be out in the open and part of public discourse is healthy.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2013, 23:51 PMGeneralCH

Dont watch youtube videos, read history books and alot of them. Then make up your mind.
Dont try to push me into a racist corner.