New modder!! A lot of modding questions!

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2017, 07:24 AMHarry

I am a new modder who just started modding 3 months ago. I am now making a turning mod and I have a lot of questions want to ask you guys.
1. I want to make Maxim HMG into lmg just like 30cal and mg42(lmg). I have tried to make it into a slot item but it will not show animation( model). I have also tried to make it an epbs and add it to the squad as an upgrade, but once the squad get the upgrade, the whole squad will split into half and one of them will automatically become an HMG squad.
2.I want to make a mortar trench. I have successfully make it happen but I could not make the inside mortar doing any force attack(hit the ground) or ability. Also, my trench model is based on the UKF mortar emplacement. If I want it can hold a USF pack 75mm and LInGs. Do I need to add texts into the abps files?
3. I have tried put a commander on KV1. But it seems like the whole person is glitched in the tank. Do I have a way to fix it?
Sorry, if there are a lot of grammars mistakes. I am not an English speaker

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2017, 07:24 AMHarry

Do I need to add texts into the abps files?

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2017, 12:54 PMPlanet Smasher

"Do I need to add texts into the abps files?"
What do you mean by that?

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2017, 18:57 PMSneakEye

You only need to add the other models in the abp file when they have to act as one entity. An emplacement with garrison doesn't require any abp changes. You only need to change the hold of the emplacement to enable the hold of other unit types (Default is only infantry and mg). I doubt that the models will get the right position in the trench, but you just have to try it

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2017, 18:57 PMSneakEye

You only need to add the other models in the abp file when they have to act as one entity. An emplacement with garrison doesn't require any abp changes. You only need to change the hold of the emplacement to enable the hold of other unit types (Default is only infantry and mg). I doubt that the models will get the right position in the trench, but you just have to try it

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2017, 20:17 PMHarry

I have tried to put soviet 120mm mortar into the trench. For some reason, the mortar was placed at the infantry position( the place where the infantries stand where is on the edge of the emplacement) instead of in the middle( where usually the two mortars place in the default UKF emplacement). I have tried to change the type of the 120mm mortar, and also the hold unit type of the trench. None of them work. Do you guys know how to fix it.( Same idea for At guns and Support guns)? And, thx for your guys help.

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2017, 20:33 PMPlanet Smasher

The mortar pit model works with the HM-38, as you can see in the trending image on the front page. Clone the mortar entity's "holdable_ext" and change "holdable" from "hold_large_gun" to "hold_mortar". You can do that for the light artillery guns as well. If you then also modify their weapons as I described above, they should be fully functional.

Edit: You also need to set "enable_in_building" to True for the barrage abilities.

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2017, 01:23 AMHarry

I have changed "enable_in_building" to True for the barrage abilities. To be more specific, When I am trying to active the mortar ability, it will start cooldown(the icon will turn yellow), but no actual action will be done, and because of this. The cooldown bar will maintain at the beginning. Could you please tell me how to fix it?
Edit, the mortar in the trench will not autofire at long range( close range yes).How do I suppose to change it?( I have added an ability to increase mortar performance when they are in garrison which including increase weapon range.)

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2017, 12:54 PMPlanet Smasher

Each weapon has, under "behaviour", a flag named "attack_ground_type". This needs to be set to "anywhere" for barrages to work while garrisoned.

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2017, 08:32 AMPlanet Smasher

Have you done this? Also, note that for barrages, you need to make sure the weapon has at least the same range as the ability. Make sure to increase both when garrisoned. Lastly, as far as I know, mobile team weapons (everything with wheels, basically) will only be able to fire to the front of the emplacement, because they can not rotate once set up.

I have a mod that I'll probably release later today where this stuff is included. I can send you the source files if you want.

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2017, 19:17 PMHarry

Yes, I have done all that you mentioned. I have changed everything that might control firing in garrison to "true". And, also. "you need to make sure the weapon has at least the same range as the ability.", Sorry, What do you mean by that? Considering the garrison buffing ability is interdependent on the barrage ability. Do I really need to make sure both of them are having the same range? ( pack support gun is having a different auto fire range and barrage range. ). At this point. Do you think there is any possibility that something is wrong with the emplacement entity?
For auto fire question, I meant for team weapons like mortars and support guns. They should be able to auto-chase(aim) the enemy and fire at them. Originally, they should do these too when they are in garrison. Do you remember if there was a default mortar trench( I think it is under epbs, environment)?Any Mortar in that trench could auto fire at the enemies. I made my trench base on that entity. I only changed the model link and added a construction command. Here are more details about what is happening right now to the mortars in the trench which i made. It will auto_fire (rotate their fire angle and start firing)only when the enemies are close enough( almost face to face, out of the closest limit range). If the enemies are too far away from them(Still in the weapon range, and they are visible.), I have to give them commands to attack the enemies. I think there may be something wrong with the line of sight entity( considering the buff I set up for the garrisoned mortar is only for increasing their weapon range).


Yes. If you can send me your source file, I would appreciate you a lot!
I will give you my email address when you respond to me again.Also, I will send you my source file too. Could you help me check the mortar entities if there is anything wrong?

Once again, Thank you very much Planet Smasher, Thank you very much!!!!

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2017, 21:52 PMPlanet Smasher

No problem, helping each other out is the purpose of this forum!

Which model did you use? The trench or the mortar pit? I don't quite understand what you mean.

Let's use the Pack Howitzer as an example. The entity has five different weapons in its combat_ext. The first one is for right-click attack, auto-attack and attack ground. For that one, you need to make sure the minimum range is not too high. The second weapon is used for the standard barrage ability. This ability has a maximum range of 120. Let's say you increase that by 50%, so it becomes 120*1,5=180. Now the range of the weapon also needs to be at least 180, or the barrage ability will not always work.

This means that for every barrage ability, you need to check how high the maximum range can possibly be, including veterancy modifiers and everything. Then you need to make sure the weapon used by the barrage ability also has at least the same range. (More is also alright.)

You can download the files for my mod here: https://github.com/PlanetSmasherCOH/NoMoreSimCity

Open them with the Mod Tools and have a look, maybe that will help you. If there's anything you don't understand, feel free to ask.
If nothing else works, you can also send me your files, maybe I'll find your mistake.

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2017, 11:20 AMPlanet Smasher

Sure, I can have a look. I can't access the file, though. Could you unlock it or upload it somewhere else?

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2017, 23:54 PMPlanet Smasher

No problem!

Your new barrage abilities are not working because you forgot to change which hardpoint they use - they are still trying to use the original, unchanged weapons which don't work while garrisoned.

You also didn't add the new auto-fire weapon to the mortar entity. It still uses the original weapon with 80 range. I would suggest adding it as a second weapon to hardpoint 1 and creating a requirement_action with required_in_structure in the entity's action_apply_ext to switch between the two weapons!

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2017, 23:54 PMPlanet Smasher

No problem!

Your new barrage abilities are not working because you forgot to change which hardpoint they use - they are still trying to use the original, unchanged weapons which don't work while garrisoned.
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You also didn't add the new auto-fire weapon to the mortar entity. It still uses the original weapon with 80 range. I would suggest adding it as a second weapon to hardpoint 1 and creating a requirement_action with required_in_structure in the entity's action_apply_ext to switch between the two weapons!

Jump back to quoted post16 Feb 2017, 20:25 PMZombiFrancis

Out of curiosity are the mortars unable to fire outside their sight range? Can they barrage into the fow?

Sight range and weapon range are very different values, and especially pertinent for indirect fire weapons.

The mortars don't need sight in the trench /pit necessarily, so as long as it's sight is appropriate for any other unit using it like infantry or mgs.