Maps in automatch (wb Rzhev (S), bye Hill 400)

Edit: Re Rzev Summer and Hill 400, check out post #6 ff.

I'm currently looking into creating some piece on map statistics for automatch and the different ladders.

Now, to get the data I download basically the map history from each player from relics server. Funnily, when going through the data I got back, it seems like very occasionally something funny happens, namely that according to the database match happens on a map that is not in the automatch pool. Now, I'd like to verify if this is a glitch in the database that I get the data from (like, the wrong match was stored) or if those matches actually happened on these maps.

I'm currently checking from the 25th of May to the 24th of October.

For 1v1 all is fine.

For 2v2 I have five matches on "Don River". There is one constant, in all cases foboes was playing.

For 3v3 I have 2 games that apparently were played on "Rzhev, Summer", in particular

on the 20th of September, a 21 minute match involving i29 (UKF), RAMBO (UKF) and Wild boar (SOV).

and then on 24th of September, a 20 minute match involving i29 (OH), -HOI-EliasZhao (UKF), -HOI-mmmMask (UKF) and [HAN]Sturmovika (UKF).

In 4v4, there are:

On the 17th of July, a match on "Ettelbruck Station" involving Dursthorn (OKW), stubborn (USF), Vandolizm (OKW), mgall (OKW) and [KKKK] Born to KILL (USF).

Then on the 15th of September, a 0 minutes, 0 damage match on a map called "verdun-valley-of-death-v002" involving (ok, getting lazy now, here's the text dump)

Matchtype:           4
 Map:      verdun-valley-of-death-v002
 Match took            0  Minutes!
 Played:          15 .           9 .        2016
 Player       23195 :/steam/76561198155675299 SOV           0           4 Rise and Shine
 Player       23641 :/steam/76561198007230425 GER           0           4 Gniloi_Abrikos
 Player       26462 :/steam/76561198127220231 UKF           0           4 ReFleX_Maamba
 Player       11483 :/steam/76561198062849543 GER           0           4 [Tiger] Tzz ~Zombiehund~
 Player        5856 :/steam/76561198082151164 USF           0           4 2 royal irish
 Player       11568 :/steam/76561198044762102 GER           0           4 [Tiger]  Maj. Aigelo
 Player       10577 :/steam/76561198020505492 UKF           0           4 wodetese
 Player       23170 :/steam/76561198171723825 GER           0           4 bom1802

and finally another match on Ettelbruck on the 6th of October:

Matchtype:           4
 Map:      6p_ettelbruck_station
 Match took            7  Minutes!
 Played:           6 .          10 .        2016
 Player       19015 :/steam/76561198093568436 OKW           0           1 Lemonade
 Player       20936 :/steam/76561198078557076 USF           0           0 The Duchess
 Player       13968 :/steam/76561198007478390 OKW           0           1 ☆☆☆vadovec☆☆☆
 Player       26905 :/steam/76561198089557147 USF           0           0 Juba
 Player        4541 :/steam/76561198107299754 OKW           0           1 pukan127
 --player unknown--
 Player       21112 :/steam/76561198097115716 GER           0           1 Оборин
 Player       24134 :/steam/76561197987203512 UKF           0           0 NoiZe
 

Did these matches really happen on those maps?

PS: The number of players is correct, I only omitted those that are not known to my script due to them not being ranked before the game

PPS: Yes, there was some hiccup in one of the game servers this year for less than a day, where you would always end up on the same weird map. However, that was before the 25th of May.

Have you reported this on Relics official forums?

https://community.companyofheroes.com/categories/coh2-bug-reporting

Have you reported this on Relics official forums?

https://community.companyofheroes.com/categories/coh2-bug-reporting

Nope, so far I wasn't sure if the games actually happened. It could have been that the map information was stored incorreclty on the server, or that I retrieved the wrong information, or the map is correct but the game type is not (like, it could have been a custom match instead of an automatch) and so on.

That's why I was quite happy when Pigsoup confirmed that (at least some of) those games indeed took place...

I like this bug, how long I did not play in the summer Rzhev in automatch, wonderful old map, causing nastolgiya. good bug

I played on Rzhev Summer on automatch two days ago on 3v3, thought it has been added to the pool.

I like this bug, how long I did not play in the summer Rzhev in automatch, wonderful old map, causing nastolgiya. good bug

I played on Rzhev Summer on automatch two days ago on 3v3, thought it has been added to the pool.

Lol, checked again because of so many people mention Rzhev Summer...

So, I picked some arbitrary time period in summer which contained 15k 3v3 games. I have automatch games on 19 maps. Top map was "Across the Rhine" with 1201 games, 18th map was "Hill 331" with 512 games, and then there were two games on "Rzhev Summer"; so these two are clearly some glitches.

Checking for the last weeks (36k games), the top map is still "Across the Rhine" with 2519, but "Rzhev Summer" is on a respectable 15th place with 1743 games, significantly more than "General Mud", "Montargis", or the two Hills.

So, yeah, almost seems like it is back in the pool. Given that it is not possible to veto the map, I would expect it to be higher in the ranking though. But then again, given that the winter version is only two places better (1847 games), maybe a veto for "Rzhev" counts for both versions?

Relic things, eh?

I miss Rhzev summer, I hate the winter version

Given that it is not possible to veto the map, I would expect it to be higher in the ranking though. But then again, given that the winter version is only two places better (1847 games), maybe a veto for "Rzhev" counts for both versions?

Ok, scrap that, "Rzhev (Summer)" now is 1st...

Saw Rzhev summer in 3v3 automatch on twitch couple of days ago.

I also cannot Hill400 on 3v3+ gamemode.

WHAT IS GOING ON!

Well spotted. I dug a little deeper into the data and what I found:

Since the 22nd of December "Hill 400" apparently is not in the rotation anymore; I have no game on record, neither in 3v3 nor in 4v4.

In 3v3 "Rzev Summer" seems to have taken its place (and being "unvetoable" it's the most played 3v3 map now).

In 4v4, we seem to have twice as many games on Steppes as we had before so it's like it is in the list of maps twice, doubling its chances of being picked.

Well spotted. I dug a little deeper into the data and what I found:

Since the 22nd of December "Hill 400" apparently is not in the rotation anymore; I have no game on record, neither in 3v3 nor in 4v4.

In 3v3 "Rzev Summer" seems to have taken its place (and being "unvetoable" it's the most played 3v3 map now).

In 4v4, we seem to have twice as many games on Steppes as we had before so it's like it is in the list of maps twice, doubling its chances of being picked.

Good to know cuz Steppes is best 4v4 map in my opinion. I liked "Hill 400" too, though.
Anyway, thanks for the info.

Offtop:
I have a few questions about your project:
1) Does Relic provides some kind of API to get data through? How did you got it?
2) What programming language and database you are using?

Yup Hill400 is away, Resh sommer is in it.So you can get both, resh winter and sommer. But only can ban resh winter.

Also a new funny fact: I veto Steppe in 4vs4. The 3 other mates in the lobby saw the veto as well. And still we got Steppe

January 11th Hotfix - DELAYED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE

Bug Fixes

Fixed an issue with bundle artwork not being displayed properly in the in-game store

Fixed an issue with Hill 400 not showing up in the map pool


EHM FAIL?!

Its still not showing up for me

Edit: or is it a to-do list? And they did not fixed it yet?

I miss Rhzev summer, I hate the winter version

axis MG spammer and ele/JT noob confirmed

January 11th Hotfix - DELAYED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE

Highlighted the relevant part

Yes, these seems to be an announcement.

I CAN confirm that rzhev summer sometimes enter on the 3v3 map.

pretty annoying bug because that map is awful

axis MG spammer and ele/JT noob confirmed

I prefer pripyat summer