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7 Apr 2017, 06:01 AMMistah_S

Eh, it's a necro, but its not a Mr.S necro.

Plus I dont consider a necro somthing that is still relevant

Yeah I think it's still relevant. IMO the thing is basically useless.

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Is it intended that the smoke doesn't break the line of sight?

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8 Apr 2017, 08:24 AMIron Emperor

Is it intended that the smoke doesn't break the line of sight?

Yes, it should only provide yellow cover

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Would providing heavy cover increase its usefulness too much? I feel like compared to a complete LoS blocker it still trails behind, and Shock Troops also have a cost of 15 while being a LoS blocker.

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8 Apr 2017, 21:03 PMKasarov

Would providing heavy cover increase its usefulness too much? I feel like compared to a complete LoS blocker it still trails behind, and Shock Troops also have a cost of 15 while being a LoS blocker.

Heavy cover would also decrease incoming mortar damage by 50% That might be, eh, a bit too much.

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9 Apr 2017, 18:36 PMMr.Smith

Heavy cover would also decrease incoming mortar damage by 50% That might be, eh, a bit too much.

You could just spam them everywhere on all your infantry lul. I still think they should just get a normal damn smoke grenade and call case closed. It's not like brits are overflowing with useful smoke anyway.
Edit: don't forget 50% reduced damage from grenades and attack ground with tanks too.

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-regular smoke grenade to block sight would be good option. to block an mg overlooking some mortars = great = useful

-i think it would still work if it gives yellow cover as is, but i think it should be an insta pop smoke bomb at the commandos feet. (means the commando doesnt have to sacrifice dps) i just find that throwing a smoke grenade which breaks stealth or mid firefight anywhere away from you counter intuitive. (make it a vet 1 ability if needed maybe)

- make it not break stealth - use a single off map mortar shell or something like a call in ability so you can still get the jump on the enemy

i figure its
gammon bomb - offense - hit and run against one unit - make germans go boom - run away or hide

smoke pop - defensive - longer fight expected against multiple units. expecting counter attack from other units in the area.

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just to add i still find the commandoes in general are working as intended. i just find that they have an ability that as it stands i will never use =(

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24 Apr 2017, 02:47 AMtBurninator00

just to add i still find the commandoes in general are working as intended. i just find that they have an ability that as it stands i will never use =(

Yeah but I think that all abilities should have some sort of usefulness, as most of them already do, especially if they're taking up a veterancy bonus (as opposed to, say RA or acc buffs that a lot of wfa units get with vet1). Hopefully there's some community patch where the modders get to crusade against all the useless abilities in the game