Fix for Blobbing / Rifle Terminators

Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2016, 22:34 PMAustralian Magic

And why we don't have issues with big ultimate Guards-Penals blob for example? Becasue SU lacks of FRP which makes blobbing easier, faster, less punishing. Give SU FRP and you gonna notice insane blobs.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 00:41 AMFiresparks

the m1919a6 are a lot better than the guard's dp-28. the garand is also far better than the guard's mosin. that dps give dual m1919a6 rifleman the ability to walk over most opposition.
You don't even have to look at the soviet. compare the effectiveness of dual m1919a6 to dual bar.

The penal have rather "normal" dodging bonus compared to the most extreme example.

blob is the easiest and simplest strat to use. it become a problem when the blob have high dps and high dodging bonus.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 07:28 AMAustralian Magic

The same way Rifles are a lot better than old ultimate Volks blob

FRP is reason behind 3/4 of blobs.

Imgaine Ettlebruck Station. Would you blob straight into 2 HMGs if you knew you have to retreat whole way to the base? Nope. But if you do, you gonna lose whole map.
Now, if you know you don't have FRP which saves you from dumb moves, you gonna move careful, recon, etc etc becase you know that each mass retreat means 2-3mins out of game.

Sure, people will still blob even without FRP but then blobbing will be very punishing for them.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 07:46 AMmortiferum

Oh no mate, ettelbruck is shock troop and 120mm mortar

*Now replaced by roaming kill teams of commandos (I mean 3+) + ALO) and/ or 2-3 mortar pit... per player.. in anything above 2v2 xD

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 07:28 AMAustralian Magic

The same way Rifles are a lot better than old ultimate Volks blob

FRP is reason behind 3/4 of blobs.

Imgaine Ettlebruck Station. Would you blob straight into 2 HMGs if you knew you have to retreat whole way to the base? Nope. But if you do, you gonna lose whole map.
Now, if you know you don't have FRP which saves you from dumb moves, you gonna move careful, recon, etc etc becase you know that each mass retreat means 2-3mins out of game.

Sure, people will still blob even without FRP but then blobbing will be very punishing for them.

Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2016, 20:13 PMAustralian Magic

For 3v3 and 4v4 removing FRPs is even bigger advantage. Each insta reatring blob is going to stay out of battle for like a 2-3 minutes.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 09:04 AMAustralian Magic

You keep talking about LMGs but again, Volks didn't have LMGs.
Fusilier don't have LMGs yet the blob is still powerful.

LMGs are part of the problem but second part is FRP.

Without FRP blobbing would be very punishing and that's not questionable. Try to blob rifles without using Mjr as a FRP and you gonna see huge difference.

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It does not matter if you blob or not. FRPs are cancer. FRPs give you unfair advantage and that's it.

Give me a reason why Rifles should have FRP while Grens shouldnt?
Why Volks should have FHQ while Cons shouldnt?

I don't see any reason behind this.

Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2016, 16:12 PMAustralian Magic

Remove FRPs from USF, OKW and Brits.
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No more blobs problems.

Simplest solutions are the best

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 10:10 AMAustralian Magic

You don't get the point.

Of course FRPs are not what make the blobs. It's weapons, veterancy etc BUT without FRPs it will be way easier to punish blobbers. FRPs encourage blobbing and mak it easier.

Plus there is no reason for FRPs to exist.
But of there is, enlight me why FRPs are good, why only DLC faction should have them and why they are so needed and why it would be better to give FRPs to SU and OST instead of removing them from OKW, UKF and USF.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 17:12 PMEsxile

What do you give to compensate FRP?
Don't forget Ostheer has cheap Sdkf to reinforce T2 + various bunkers
Soviet has 6 men support unit that are really durable and T3 halftrack to reinforce

USF and OKW are just naked without FRP today. I'm not saying it is a bad idea, just that it is a faction design issue that is not going to be solved with the removal of FRP.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 10:10 AMAustralian Magic

You don't get the point.

Of course FRPs are not what make the blobs. It's weapons, veterancy etc BUT without FRPs it will be way easier to punish blobbers. FRPs encourage blobbing and mak it easier.

Plus there is no reason for FRPs to exist.
But of there is, enlight me why FRPs are good, why only DLC faction should have them and why they are so needed and why it would be better to give FRPs to SU and OST instead of removing them from OKW, UKF and USF.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 20:44 PMFiresparks

dual lmg and terminator veterancy are a bigger issue. FRP contribute to the issue but I don't think it's a big problem without the dual lmg and terminator vet.

It is also still possible to have a blob without the benefit of FRP. Soviet can have a mini blob with penal and guard on a smaller map.

in addition, neither the OKW nor the UKF have mobile reinforcement. USF have ambulance but neither the UKF nor OKW have halftrack or any similar unit in their tech.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 20:47 PMAustralian Magic

USF and UKF have access to double LMGs? Cool but they in exchange they shouldn't have mobile reinforce etc etc.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 21:34 PMFiresparks

double lmg is the bigger problem compared to FRP. it affect 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4. Using the lack of mobile reinforcement to justify double lmg is just absurd.