Buff Wehrmacht

Jump back to quoted post30 Jun 2016, 22:25 PMpigsoup

i was just being nice . it was just an overview of the forum in general in its lifetime. it is fascinating to see how quickly and drastically OKW UP changed to OST UP though.

Jump back to quoted post30 Jun 2016, 22:27 PMJohnnyShaun

No more easy win for axis, deal with it.

edit : it's also fascinating how OKW was OP when has 66% income and UP when they got 100% income and still has vet 5.

Jump back to quoted post30 Jun 2016, 20:15 PMTobis

What did Cookiez just tell you?

Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2016, 00:41 AMMistah_S

Lul

Jump back to quoted post30 Jun 2016, 11:34 AMAradan

Yours wishes dont reflex reality.
http://coh2chart.com/

Game never been well ballanced as it now.
It is a pleasure to play for each side, and have the same chances of winning.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2016, 02:19 AMOuTLaWSTaR

Let me re-iterate, before someone jumps in and starts talking numbers. Fundamentally, the results are skewed. To really delve into statistics you have to have a set experiment, meaning each side has to have evenly played games.

Basing data off of random X games played and plugging into a formula doesn't prove anything because the basic numbers are flawed. The only thing his numbers actually prove is how many games each faction got played.

I laugh when he starts using averages, and in turn people start basing statements off it. Lol

Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2016, 02:05 AMOuTLaWSTaR

Franz L can't even do basic math. That statistics website is a joke.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2016, 08:08 AMOuTLaWSTaR

Look, lemme try to explain statistics on a more basic format.

In order to give unbiased statistical data you have to take into account more factors other than x games played divide by x factions. Yes that is how you obtain a basic average, we all know this.

Basic statistics states that data cannot be represented in a skewed manner, meaning the matches played between each faction are completely uneven and not necessarily representing a good experiment.

For example, let's create a hypothetical experiment to put this into perspective. I'm a scientist, and i'm doing research on 3 regions to see which regions have the best long distance runners. Rather than lumping all runners into each region into a category, to remain unbiased I'd choose 10 runners from each region with olympic medals out of the 100 runners (age20-30) randomly, opposed to just picking all runners in each region and basing my study off raw data. This way the data is unbiased, otherwise you would run into the fact that there's an uneven playing field (i.e old runners, younger runners, non olypmic, olympic, in good health, not in good health)...

My basic point being the average (http://coh2chart.com/) is based off raw data... Which doesn't really represent which factions are better than the other.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2016, 08:08 AMOuTLaWSTaR

Look, lemme try to explain statistics on a more basic format.

*STUFF*

My basic point being the average (http://coh2chart.com/) is based off raw data... Which doesn't really represent which factions are better than the other.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jun 2016, 06:45 AMheroicservant

Ostheer is in a fine place. Ostheer rewards you for good micro with vet and combined arms tactics. True Grens aren't elite anti Inf but they are not meant for that, they fulfill a support role. Ost can feel very fragile if used incorrectly ie to aggressively or spread-out. Play defensively with them and they can be the most rewarding faction to play as. All this goes without saying that they just got a cost reduction to tier3 and 4 which they needed.

Jump back to quoted post30 Jun 2016, 16:03 PMRedT3rror

Let's play a game: Find the allied fanboy thread:

Jump back to quoted post30 Jun 2016, 15:47 PMbicho1

no no no USF need a buff we are weak early and late game

we need this bug to rifelman cos they get rekt bars need an upgrade cos its got shit preformnce

shermans are shit vs aixe powers \armor!!!

Jump back to quoted post30 Jun 2016, 07:57 AMSvanh

I agree with most of this.

Switching the Sniper and the Pak40 might be nasty for Ostheer against USF/UKF but those match-ups are the ones that seem to cause the most posts and could do with a look anyway.

"A 280MP squad...really good at long range combat" describes Infantry Sections. This is probably partially why there are complaints about Grens; using them as mainline combat infantry against UKF isn't a great idea.

Panzergrenadiers are actually already quite powerful (better DPS than upgraded Grens out to range 25/30). The only real change they need is better vet distribution. Moving half of their vet 2 received accuracy bonus to vet 1 and/or giving them a better vet ability is enough.

The Panzer IV will win any straight fight with the Cromwell and, barring crushing, seems to have better AI (it definitely has better MGs). The reason that the Cromwell is so powerful is because the Tank Commander upgrade allows the Cromwell to get the first shot off and its maneuverability allows it to flank the Panzer IV fairly easily. The Tank Commander needs a cost increase but the Cromwell is reasonably balanced otherwise (might require a small cost increase).

+1

Every Brit players knows to get up close and personal with the cromwell and flank. THe cromwell can circle a p4 faster than the p4 turret rotation. Hence the Cromwell should get a fuel increase to 120.

Jump back to quoted post2 Jul 2016, 01:46 AMJustin xv

give Ostheer a Hotchkiss in T2... Something comparable to the USF/Soviet lights.