panthers reload speed
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19 Jun 2016, 17:29 PM
#1
Posts: 109
maybe it's just me, but why does the panther take so long to reload? its already got piss poor accuracy, surely shouldn't it be one or the other? maybe decrease the reload by a second since it can't hit anything? or keep the reload but make it a true tank hunter with good accuracy?
19 Jun 2016, 17:55 PM
#2
Posts: 1217
It´s good for nothing. Can´t tank since it has a mediums health pool, can´t be spammed since it´s one of the most expensive units in the game, can´t outrange a lot of units and can´t even out-dps a fucking Panzer IV.
Don´t build it.
The only-allied expert team is coming for you though since you proposed a buff to a German tank. Pretty tired of arguing against them again. Have fun.
Don´t build it.
The only-allied expert team is coming for you though since you proposed a buff to a German tank. Pretty tired of arguing against them again. Have fun.
19 Jun 2016, 20:39 PM
#3
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Yeah, thing could probably use a second off the reload time at least.
19 Jun 2016, 20:50 PM
#4
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So you just made a thread about limiting panther to one and now you say it's UP? Make up your mind.
19 Jun 2016, 20:52 PM
#5
Posts: 74
Its reload should be in line with other advanced mediums like easy 8's and comets, not in the level of ISU XD
19 Jun 2016, 20:55 PM
#6
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Its reload should be in line with other advanced mediums like easy 8's and comets, not in the level of ISU XD
It actually wins against all other mediums. It has really low pop too.
19 Jun 2016, 20:57 PM
#7
Posts: 366
Instead of reload speed increase i suggest increase its damage from 160 to 200.
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19 Jun 2016, 21:08 PM
#8
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Give late-war autoloader upgrade for the 7.5 cm KwK 42 for 60 muni.
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19 Jun 2016, 21:22 PM
#9
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Its reload should be in line with other advanced mediums like easy 8's and comets, not in the level of ISU XD
Man, ISU wished it fired every 7 and a half seconds.
19 Jun 2016, 21:29 PM
#10
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high quality troll
19 Jun 2016, 23:19 PM
#11
Posts: 168
maybe it's just me, but why does the panther take so long to reload? its already got piss poor accuracy, surely shouldn't it be one or the other? maybe decrease the reload by a second since it can't hit anything? or keep the reload but make it a true tank hunter with good accuracy?
{1}
panther wins pershing 1 v 1
panther costs less then a pershing
so why pershing loses 1 v 1 to panther ???
{2}
if you can get unlimited panthers why cant you get unlimited pershings its fucked up pershing isant heavy just like panther both of them are medium
only thing pershing some times preform better in killing infentry then a panther ...
19 Jun 2016, 23:36 PM
#12
Posts: 1217
The Pershing is anti everything. The Panther is anti tank.
{1}
panther wins pershing 1 v 1
panther costs less then a pershing
so why pershing loses 1 v 1 to panther ???
Because you also can get unlimited Comets, T-34/85s and E8s, which share similar health with the Panther. I´d consider them an own class. Improved mediums. The Panther however costs way more while offering less utility. The Comet is in the same cost bracket, yet kills infantry easily and only loses by a small margin versus the Panther. The sheer dps of all "improved mediums" is lowest on the Panther due to the rate of fire.
{2}
if you can get unlimited panthers why cant you get unlimited pershings its fucked up pershing isant heavy just like panther both of them are medium
Always. Not "sometimes".
only thing pershing some times preform better in killing infentry then a panther ...
19 Jun 2016, 23:45 PM
#13
1 Posts: 927
panthers are garbage, low rate of fire, worthless accuracy and laughable AI. The only thing they are good for is deflecting sherman shells but why wouldn't you just build a Tiger instead?
19 Jun 2016, 23:57 PM
#14
Posts: 141
Sorry but the Panther can't have everything. It already has very good frontal armor and great speed, you also have great vet bonuses (looking at you vet 2). The Panther is already a great tank, it doesn't need any changes.
20 Jun 2016, 00:57 AM
#15
Posts: 70
If it is a medium then increase the Rof and reduce the armour.
If it is a heavy then reduce the speed and increase main gun damage
If it is a AT veh then reduce its AI power(pintle mg) and more AT related buffs; rof, damage, los.
Probably not los cause panther can shoot really far.. :/ but the panzer commander
If it is a heavy then reduce the speed and increase main gun damage
If it is a AT veh then reduce its AI power(pintle mg) and more AT related buffs; rof, damage, los.
Probably not los cause panther can shoot really far.. :/ but the panzer commander
20 Jun 2016, 01:03 AM
#16
Posts: 2561
There's a reason the panther was nerfed down to the level it is in right now.
To put it simply the panther can't have evertything. It's combination of speed, armor, and range already makes it more then capable of diving to kill tanks and escaping from potential threats. Better then anything the allies have, only the comet comes close and is still waeker in the AT department despite higher price.
It has a low rate of fire to give the allied players a chance to actually react to it and save their armor, something that was found to be needed after years of axis having a pretty much uncontested late game advantage.
To put it simply the panther can't have evertything. It's combination of speed, armor, and range already makes it more then capable of diving to kill tanks and escaping from potential threats. Better then anything the allies have, only the comet comes close and is still waeker in the AT department despite higher price.
It has a low rate of fire to give the allied players a chance to actually react to it and save their armor, something that was found to be needed after years of axis having a pretty much uncontested late game advantage.
20 Jun 2016, 01:15 AM
#17
Posts: 875 | Subs: 2
There's a reason the panther was nerfed down to the level it is in right now.
To put it simply the panther can't have evertything. It's combination of speed, armor, and range already makes it more then capable of diving to kill tanks and escaping from potential threats. Better then anything the allies have, only the comet comes close and is still waeker in the AT department despite higher price.
It has a low rate of fire to give the allied players a chance to actually react to it and save their armor, something that was found to be needed after years of axis having a pretty much uncontested late game advantage.
I'd like to suggest removing it from the game in that case. The P4 + StuG seems to cover everything now; therefore, it would be a mere waste of resources for someone to purchase it.
20 Jun 2016, 01:20 AM
#18
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
There's a reason the panther was nerfed down to the level it is in right now.
To put it simply the panther can't have evertything. It's combination of speed, armor, and range already makes it more then capable of diving to kill tanks and escaping from potential threats. Better then anything the allies have, only the comet comes close and is still waeker in the AT department despite higher price.
It has a low rate of fire to give the allied players a chance to actually react to it and save their armor, something that was found to be needed after years of axis having a pretty much uncontested late game advantage.
While true at the time, other factors affected this equation as well (USF AT was unreliable against it, Blitzkrieg was ridiculousness). As those should all be fixed by the next patch and all Allied factions should have the AT necessary to bring down Panther effectively (SU-85!
), I think the Panther could stand to gain a little more AT DPS.
20 Jun 2016, 07:53 AM
#19
Posts: 168
The Pershing is anti everything. The Panther is anti tank.
Because you also can get unlimited Comets, T-34/85s and E8s, which share similar health with the Panther. I´d consider them an own class. Improved mediums. The Panther however costs way more while offering less utility. The Comet is in the same cost bracket, yet kills infantry easily and only loses by a small margin versus the Panther. The sheer dps of all "improved mediums" is lowest on the Panther due to the rate of fire.
Always. Not "sometimes".
*i know its sad its a game efterall ,but panther wins 1 v 1 every medium armor in this game even the pershing
if the game would be realistic fire fly would of blow every tiger in 1 shoot ,its not...
so why panther is so powerfull?
*in coh 2 most of the times you win by armor ,how much times you lost to an early sherman ?
how will you win without a tiger or a panther or a panzer 4 ?
so if you got the most survivable tank thet will outstate [outplay]sovit,usf or british armor the game is yours
i cant win without armor only by my rifleman or shit USF ATG efter you deal with my tanks, panther isant so bad vs AI it got 2 mgs one turent ,models die preaty well so stop lieing
20 Jun 2016, 08:06 AM
#20
Posts: 168
panthers are garbage, low rate of fire, worthless accuracy and laughable AI. The only thing they are good for is deflecting sherman shells but why wouldn't you just build a Tiger instead?
ooo ye you are right you poor aixe funboy ...
if you wont drive on an OP tank you wont be happy you need better and better armor to crash this shermans right !!!
it wasent me thet told usf cant really deal with a panther HOI paul him self told give usf a tank thet could play vs a panther
if a faction cant deal with a tank its op ...
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