So uhm, how do you even counter this?

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 07:18 AMUnited

double mortars or rush a FHT

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 09:30 AMchipwreckt

Never spend manpower on normal mortars vs emplacements.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 13:38 PMSuperhet

Actually mortars are great vs emplacements. Two will destroy them quickly, wipe sappers repairing it and the unit inside while you can reinforce with a HT to keep up a constant barrage if he fires back (which means he's not firing on your units, so you can attack with them no problem). And mortars are great against the rest of UKF's units too.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 18:10 PMchipwreckt

I mean vs Advanced emplacements (the doctrine) facing bofors + mortar pit in a 1v1 scenario. Like topic start. And no, its terrible. PM me if you want to test it

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 18:36 PMSuperhet

Right, I assumed you meant vs emplacements in general. I haven't actually played as or against advanced emplacements so can't comment on that, and I can indeed see how the improved defenses, automated repairs and counter-battery add up to making them ineffective if you give him time and space to get that up. But against normal emplacements I know they're great.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 19:13 PMDangerous-Cloth

Give him time? Rushing a bofors is pretty easy and can deny a good deal of the map if you combine it with tommies, a vickers and a 6 pounder. This snowballs into full emplacement cancer with a sweet comet stall. Good luck preventing it as Ostheer, since being agressive isn't very effective early game as you lack the tools to quickly exploit any early agression to end the game.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 21:47 PMSuperhet

If he rushes a bofors, all you have to do is barrage it with a pair of mortars and then drive in a flammen HT when it braces. Mortars are good against UKF anyway and so is the HT, so there's no inconvenience in getting that nor do you need to wait and see if he's getting a bofors or not. If you gave him enough time to get a bofors, a 6 pounder, and then enough mines so that you can't flank it with your flammen, I think skill is a bigger issue than countering the brits.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 19:13 PMDangerous-Cloth

Good luck preventing it as Ostheer, since being agressive isn't very effective early game as you lack the tools to quickly exploit any early agression to end the game.