I will have to agree that 1600 hp with 300 armor is too much.
however, this is just arguing the specific. Stuff like the king tiger and croc get limited to one because they will be too powerful other wise. the king tiger combined both excellent firepower and durability into one package. The croc is probably the best infantry killer in the entire game, better than the king tiger.
the normal churchill should have excellent durability, but mediocre firepower. As long as the panther can 1v1 the churchill, the churchill should not be limited to one.
Churchill is garbage
27 May 2016, 12:59 PM
#101
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27 May 2016, 13:26 PM
#102
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It is more of of a vet feeder than a damage sponge.
However people don't build them because comets are simply too good and inexpensive, which is basically a combination of tiger and panther while having the speed of a Honda CBR 1000.
However people don't build them because comets are simply too good and inexpensive, which is basically a combination of tiger and panther while having the speed of a Honda CBR 1000.
27 May 2016, 18:38 PM
#103
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non doc cheap haevy tank with 1600 h and 300 armor
And canoon that way worse than medium tank gun.
27 May 2016, 19:06 PM
#104
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its literally the same as the Cromwell
And canoon that way worse than medium tank gun.
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27 May 2016, 19:17 PM
#105
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its literally the same as the Cromwell
1 second longer reload, no tank commander that gives +10% accuracy, +10% sight range.
Around ~20% worse.
27 May 2016, 19:18 PM
#106
Posts: 919
its literally the same as the Cromwell
Yes, only 120 penetration, because Cromwell is a flanking tank with high speed/accleration. Something that does not fit the role of the Churchill very well. So its worse on top of a Churchill chassis.
27 May 2016, 19:56 PM
#107
Posts: 4474
tank commader is now the gun ?
1 second longer reload, no tank commander that gives +10% accuracy, +10% sight range.
Around ~20% worse.
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27 May 2016, 19:58 PM
#108
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dude look at what i responded and stop posting he just said Churchill has a worst gun than medium tank
Yes, only 120 penetration, because Cromwell is a flanking tank with high speed/accleration. Something that does not fit the role of the Churchill very well. So its worse on top of a Churchill chassis.
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27 May 2016, 20:06 PM
#109
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tank commader is now the gun ?
Tank commander upgrade on comet and cromwell buffs main gun, churchill don't have this upgrade.
27 May 2016, 20:28 PM
#110
Posts: 97
dude look at what i responded and stop posting he just said Churchill has a worst gun than medium tank
Yeah and the Cromwell's gun is not as good as it seems to be. Try to shoot at the frontal plate of a Pz.IV and count how many times it will ricochet. Yeah, a lot.
The main gun of the Cromwell is by far his speed and mobility, rather than the gun itself. Churchill don't have this, so his gun becomes worse than the Cromwell's one.
It's not really complicated to understand, i swear.
27 May 2016, 20:34 PM
#111
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http://www.stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=panzer_4_75mm_mp
Yeah and the Cromwell's gun is not as good as it seems to be. Try to shoot at the frontal plate of a Pz.IV and count how many times it will ricochet. Yeah, a lot.
The main gun of the Cromwell is by far his speed and mobility, rather than the gun itself. Churchill don't have this, so his gun becomes worse than the Cromwell's one.
It's not really complicated to understand, i swear.
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=panzer_iv_squad_mp
"it will ricochet. Yeah, a lot."
"Cromwell's gun is not as good as it seems"
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4 Jun 2016, 10:01 AM
#112
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dude look at what i responded and stop posting he just said Churchill has a worst gun than medium tank
I didn't said that you are wrong, neither I wanted to defend his statement. I only added an aspect you have to think about when comparing guns, is it prohibited to do that?. While it has the same gun the performance of the gun is not the same, because a churchill can't flank. Lets overdo this to make it more obvious. A Cromwell with a gun of maybe 70 penetration and 320 damage would be a gamebreaking unit versus tanks, a Churchill with the same gun would suck hard versus tanks unless opponents would drive their tanks right into the Churchill with their rear side first.
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