Looking at a squad rgd (i.e. compressed attribute file) from the actual game archive (AttribArchive.sga), it would appear that they reverted squad_action_apply_ext from having squad_actions + squad_entity_actions back to just actions. This explains why all our data within squad_actions is not being recognized, but probably also means that when the modding tools are updated this data will be discarded.
Personally I'm going to try manually changing squad_actions to actions in all of my sbps XML files to try to avoid the data being discarded. Unfortunately doing this now (before the modding tools are updated) has no benefit - I tried it with the USF Lieutenant and Captain squads just to see, but the tools apparently discard non-conforming data when creating the mod archive.
Too bad we can't modify the contents of sga archive files.
Hopefully all this made some kind of sense!
Lost all squad_action_apply data?
11 Apr 2016, 17:30 PM
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11 Apr 2016, 18:13 PM
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I'd actually appreciate a revert to the old "actions" only system. That would restore my tuning packs that were destroyed in February, I guess.
Anyway I suggest moving all action data from squads to the entities. You'll have to create a bunch of new clones and put all slot items in requirement actions to prevent trouble on reinforcing the squad, but it is possible and it is working just fine. I am done with 3 of 5 factions and up til now, every problem that occured could be resolved.
At least that way you'll have a certain security - unless Relics next target is the ebps section of the attributes. In that case we're fckd.
Anyway I suggest moving all action data from squads to the entities. You'll have to create a bunch of new clones and put all slot items in requirement actions to prevent trouble on reinforcing the squad, but it is possible and it is working just fine. I am done with 3 of 5 factions and up til now, every problem that occured could be resolved.
At least that way you'll have a certain security - unless Relics next target is the ebps section of the attributes. In that case we're fckd.
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Hey Everyone,
I forwarded the issues you've been experiencing with the tools on to the dev team. However it looks like some of the issues you've been experiencing are to do with the engine changes that were implemented for the vet bug fix. There were some fundamental changes to how the game work which unfortunately might result in some of you needing to re-do some of your work to adjust for these changes.
I forwarded the issues you've been experiencing with the tools on to the dev team. However it looks like some of the issues you've been experiencing are to do with the engine changes that were implemented for the vet bug fix. There were some fundamental changes to how the game work which unfortunately might result in some of you needing to re-do some of your work to adjust for these changes.
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Some additional feedback from the dev team:
I would suggest making backup copies of all the mod sbps XML’s now (i.e. the ones that still had “squad_actions” as data field name) and wait for an updated version of the modding tool. After the modding tool is updated, do the renaming from “squad_actions” to “actions”.
We plan to release an updated version of the modding tools in our next patch.
I would suggest making backup copies of all the mod sbps XML’s now (i.e. the ones that still had “squad_actions” as data field name) and wait for an updated version of the modding tool. After the modding tool is updated, do the renaming from “squad_actions” to “actions”.
We plan to release an updated version of the modding tools in our next patch.
13 Apr 2016, 22:56 PM
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Some additional feedback from the dev team:
I would suggest making backup copies of all the mod sbps XML’s now (i.e. the ones that still had “squad_actions” as data field name) and wait for an updated version of the modding tool. After the modding tool is updated, do the renaming from “squad_actions” to “actions”.
We plan to release an updated version of the modding tools in our next patch.
Hey Kyle, doesn't cuddletronic pass these things through anymore? Or did he leave the team, which would be a shame.
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Hey Kyle, doesn't cuddletronic pass these things through anymore? Or did he leave the team, which would be a shame.
Looks like that burden is on me now. Although, I will mainly be in the official forums for those looking for responses and feedback.
14 Apr 2016, 09:52 AM
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Some additional feedback from the dev team:
I would suggest making backup copies of all the mod sbps XML’s now (i.e. the ones that still had “squad_actions” as data field name) and wait for an updated version of the modding tool. After the modding tool is updated, do the renaming from “squad_actions” to “actions”.
We plan to release an updated version of the modding tools in our next patch.
That is some nice advice and it is certainly good to hear the issue was finally noticed, however it is still beyond me how this discrepancy between base game engine and mod tools could occur in the first place.
Unfortunatly, for me, this comes about one week too late. I just finished moving everything from the squad_actions extension to the ebps section... At least my older projects may still be saved by this method. Looking forward to the next patch.
19 Apr 2016, 03:03 AM
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There is an alternate solution for slot items which doesn't necessitate cloning entities - use the squad_upgrade_apply_ext and put the add_slot_item actions in new upgrades (if one doesn't exist already, such as the Grenadier LMG).
I realize this might be coming too late for a lot of people, but I thought I'd throw it out there just in case, since I just implemented this in my mod.
I realize this might be coming too late for a lot of people, but I thought I'd throw it out there just in case, since I just implemented this in my mod.
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A massive game rework with many, many gameplay, faction AND commander changes, with an emphasis on intuitive realism (as opposed to total historical accuracy) and consistency. If you feel like CoH2 has some immersion-breaking issues right now, you might appreciate my fixes and improvements.
19 Apr 2016, 13:37 PM
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@ Kyle_RE
Thank you for the advice. Sometimes is difficult for us (the modders). Relic always introduce a lot of problems for our mods when do an update. But we need to live with that.
I already move all my data to the ebps file. I hope the next patch do not affect it too.
Thank you for the advice. Sometimes is difficult for us (the modders). Relic always introduce a lot of problems for our mods when do an update. But we need to live with that.
I already move all my data to the ebps file. I hope the next patch do not affect it too.
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