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This is an update (23 Feb 2016) of the previous statistic.

It includes all finals, semi, quarter and games for 3rd place for EU and NA cups #3 to #8, as well as the January monthly cups. I used all games for which replays were available on the ESL site, plus whatever I could find on twitch and youtube (thanks to the casters!).

The total number of games happens to be a nice, round 200, which are almost twice as many as I had previously (124).

I left the original post in the spoiler at the end, which can give you some idea about the sampling error involved in this.

Players

player	games	player	games	player	games
Luvnest	39	CaptainSPrice	14	Tüme	2
Barton	35	Momo4sho	14	Walther	2
Noggano	34	Redxwings	11	xsmiercx	2
VonIvan	32	Cruzz	9	Sierzant	2
Jesulin	29	KoreanArmy	8	Overlord	2
Talisman	25	Assbag	6	Twisted Tootsy	2
Shadowwada	25	Ciez	6	Alexander	2
Jove	22	Vindicarex	6	Heinz Guderian	2
Paul a.D.	22	SpaceHamster	5	Black Ace	2
Helping Hans	17	DevM	5
Dusty	15	Miragefla	3

Factions

	picked	won	won / %
ostheer	126	58	46%
soviets	114	62	54%
okw	74	33	45%
brits	45	24	53%
usf	41	23	56%
Sum	400	200	50%

Matchups

	games	allies won	allies won / %
soviets vs ostheer	66	35	53%
soviets vs okw	48	27	56%
usf vs ostheer	31	17	55%
usf vs okw	10	6	60%
brits vs ostheer	29	16	55%
brits vs okw	16	8	50%
Sum	200	109	55%

Maps

Maps picked:

map	games
Faymonville Approach	51
Kholodny Ferma (Summer)	49
Angoville	29
Langreskaya	25
Arnhem Checkpoint	20
Crossing in the woods	15
Semoskiy (Winter)	11
Sum	200

(in the previous version all games were counted twice (once for each player), which is why numbers here are smaller even though more games are counted)

Maps per faction:

	soviets	okw	ostheer	brits	usf
Semoskiy (Winter)	11	5	6	0	0
Langreskaya	12	10	15	10	3
Kholodny Ferma (Summer)	22	16	33	12	15
Faymonville Approach	34	16	35	9	8
Crossing in the woods	5	6	9	7	3
Arnhem Checkpoint	16	9	11	1	3
Angoville	14	12	17	6	9

Wins per map and faction:

	soviets	okw	ostheer	brits	usf
Semoskiy (Winter)	7	2	2	0	0
Langreskaya	3	5	6	9	2
Kholodny Ferma (Summer)	13	7	15	7	7
Faymonville Approach	17	5	20	6	3
Crossing in the woods	1	6	5	1	2
Arnhem Checkpoint	10	4	3	0	3
Angoville	11	4	7	1	6

Win percentage per map and faction
"-" indicates less than 5 games played

	soviets	okw	ostheer	brits	usf
Semoskiy (Winter)	64%	40%	33%	-	-
Langreskaya	25%	50%	40%	90%	-
Kholodny Ferma (Summer)	59%	44%	45%	58%	47%
Faymonville Approach	50%	31%	57%	67%	38%
Crossing in the woods	20%	100%	56%	14%	-
Arnhem Checkpoint	63%	44%	27%	-	-
Angoville	79%	33%	41%	17%	67%

Doctrines

"-" means that less than 5 games with this doctrine have been played.

ostheer	picked	picked %	won	won / %
Mobile defense	39	31%	20	51%
Osttruppen	32	25%	16	50%
Mechanized assault	23	18%	8	35%
Mechanized	13	10%	5	38%
Lightning war	7	6%	3	43%
none	6	5%	2	33%
Elite troops	5	4%	4	80%
Jaeger Armour	1	1%	0	-

soviets	picked	picked %	won	won / %
Shock Rifle Frontline	26	23%	15	58%
Armoured Assault	23	20%	15	65%
Partisan Tactics	19	17%	12	63%
Lend Lease	11	10%	6	55%
Soviet Industry	9	8%	5	56%
Guard Motor Coordinator	7	6%	1	14%
none	4	4%	3	-
Guard Rifles Comb. Arms	4	4%	3	-
Advanced Warfare	4	4%	1	-
Mechanized Support	3	3%	1	-
Conscript Support	1	1%	0	-
Soviet Reserve Army	1	1%	0	-
Anti-Infantry	1	1%	0	-
NKVD	1	1%	0	-

okw	picked	picked %	won	won / %
Luftwaffe Ground Forces	27	36%	13	48%
Scavange	23	31%	10	43%
Breakthrough	8	11%	4	50%
Special Operations	6	8%	3	50%
none	4	5%	2	-
Elite Armor	4	5%	1	-
Firestorm	1	1%	0	-
Fortifications	1	1%	0	-

usf	picked	picked %	won	won / %
Tactical Support	13	32%	5	38%
Heavy Cavalry	12	29%	8	67%
none	5	12%	3	60%
Armor	5	12%	2	40%
Rifle	4	10%	3	-
Infantry	2	5%	2	-

brits	picked	picked %	won	won / %
Tactical Support	17	38%	8	47%
Vanguard	13	29%	9	69%
Special Weapons	6	13%	3	50%
Royal Engineers	5	11%	1	20%
none	3	7%	3	-
Royal Artillery	1	2%	0	-

Old post after 124 games:

Everybody loves statistics, right? RIGHT?

One of the nice things about the ESL cups is that we get plenty of games between high ranking players, so I started to check out the replays from ESL.

Initially the plan was to cover all games from quarter finals all the way to the finals. Alas, turned out that this takes much longer than anticipated (x8 is soooo slow), so I ended up gathering at least all semifinals, games for 3rd place and finals (as far as I could find the replays) and about half of the quarter final games for a total of 124 games. Quarter finals are pretty randomly picked, so I donât expect that this biases the result significantly.

The numbers below cover NA and EU editions starting with cup #3 (which is the first after the last patch) up to the most recent cup (#7), including the January monthly finals.
Whenever I show percentages, I omit any value for which the total is 3 or less (which is already pretty generous) as they would be fairly meaningless.

Some of the numbers will reflect personal preference of the players, so here is the list of players that played the games which ended up in this statistic:

Player	Games played	Player	Games played
Barton	29	Helping Hans	8
VonIvan	25	Momo4sho	6
Luvnest	24	DevM	5
Noggano	23	KoreanArmy	3
Jesulin	23	Ciez	3
Paul a.D.	17	Walther	2
Jove	15	xsmiercx	2
Talisman	12	Assbag	2
Shadowwada	12	Vindicarex	2
Redxwings	11	Alexander	2
Dusty	11	Cruzz	1
CaptainSPrice	10

Ok, before the numbers become obsolete next patchday, here we go:

Factions

	picked	won	won / %
ostheer	84	39	46%
soviets	68	38	56%
okw	40	18	45%
usf	26	15	58%
brits	30	14	47%
Sum	248	124	50%

Matchups

	games	allies won	allies won / %
soviets vs. ostheer	40	22	55%
sovietsvs. okw	28	16	57%
usf vs. ostheer	22	12	55%
usf vs. okw	4	3	75%
brits vs. ostheer	22	11	50%
brits vs. okw	8	3	38%
Sum	124	67	54%

Maps

Maps picked:

map	games
Faymonville Approach	72
Kholodny Ferma (Summer)	62
Angoville	38
Langreskaya	24
Arnhem Checkpoint	22
Crossing in the woods	18
Semoskiy (Winter)	12

Maps per faction:

	ostheer	soviets	okw	usf	brits
Kholodny Ferma (Summer)	22	13	9	9	9
Faymonville Approach	28	24	8	5	7
Arnhem Checkpoint	6	8	5	2	1
Langreskaya	9	5	3	2	5
Angoville	11	9	8	7	3
Semoskiy (Winter)	3	6	3	0	0
Crossing in the woods	5	3	4	1	5

Wins per map and faction:

	ostheer	soviets	okw	usf	brits
Kholodny Ferma (Summer)	9	8	5	5	4
Faymonville Approach	16	12	2	1	5
Arnhem Checkpoint	2	5	2	2	0
Langreskaya	4	1	2	1	4
Angoville	4	7	3	5	0
Semoskiy (Winter)	1	5	0	0	0
Crossing in the woods	3	0	4	1	1

Win percentage per map and faction
"-" indicates less than 4 games played

	ostheer	soviets	okw	usf	brits
Kholodny Ferma (Summer)	41%	62%	56%	56%	44%
Faymonville Approach	57%	50%	25%	20%	71%
Arnhem Checkpoint	33%	63%	40%	-	-
Langreskaya	44%	20%	-	-	80%
Angoville	36%	78%	38%	71%	-
Semoskiy (Winter)	-	83%	-	-	-
Crossing in the woods	60%	-	100%	-	20%

Doctrines

"-" means that less than 4 games with this doctrine have been played.

ostheer doctrine	picked	picked / %	won	won / %
Mobile defense	30	36%	15	50%
Ostruppen	18	21%	10	56%
Mechanized assault	13	15%	4	31%
Mechanized	11	13%	5	45%
Lightning war	5	6%	1	20%
none	4	5%	2	50%
Elite troops	3	4%	2	-

soviets doctrine	picked	picked / %	won	won / %
Shock Rifle Frontline	17	25%	11	65%
Armoured Assault	13	19%	7	54%
Partisan Tactics	13	19%	9	69%
Lend Lease	7	10%	4	57%
Guard Motor Coord.	4	6%	0	0%
Soviet Industry	3	4%	2	-
Advanced Warfare	3	4%	0	-
none	3	4%	2	-
Mechanized Support	2	3%	1	-
Guard Rifles Comb. Arms	2	3%	2	-
NKVD	1	1%	0	-

okw doctrine	picked	picked / %	won	won / %
Luftwaffe Ground Forces	14	35%	6	43%
Scavange	12	30%	4	33%
Breakthrough	5	13%	3	60%
Special Operations	3	8%	2	-
none	3	8%	2	-
Elite Armor	2	5%	1	-
Firestorm	1	3%	0	-

usf doctrine	picked	picked / %	won	won / %
Tactical Support	8	31%	3	38%
Heavy Cavalry	6	23%	5	83%
none	4	15%	2	50%
Armor	4	15%	2	50%
Rifle	3	12%	2	-
Infantry	1	4%	1	-

brits doctrine	picked	picked / %	won	won / %
Tactical Support	12	40%	5	42%
Vanguard	9	30%	6	67%
Royal Engineers	4	13%	1	25%
Special Weapons	3	10%	1	-
Royal Artillery	1	3%	0	-
none	1	3%	1	-

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Wow this is amazing thanks for all the effort you put into this!

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Good job on those stats!

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Nice job, shows how allies have the most wins in these match setups.

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20 Feb 2016, 01:08 AMThamor

Nice job, shows how allies have the most wins in these match setups.

Early game advantage translates to winning before Axis can get themselves rolling.

Overall though fairly balanced, about a 10% difference in most of the win percentages, heck even the oh so broken without side-teching costs OKW isn't dominating except against the Brits(but only 8 matches played...).

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Amazing work, thx a lot.

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Nice!

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Dont forget that early stages of this are basicaly the same level as automatch . thanks for work

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Best doctrine Guard motor removed by lelic completely. As welll as other doctrines that they were buffing and selling separately. Such a deception.
Who nneds their damned maps if do this kind of things.

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Wehrmacht is underpowered and needs some major buffs

But in all seriousness, why did USF fall out of popularity? Weren't they pretty strong before the OKW revamp?

Anyway thanks for the data, Siphon X. This info is way better than people constantly quoting coh2charts numbers.

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again and again m saying that vet 3 rifle blobs area cancer either buff eilte infy to fight standard infy better in all factions are just remove the terminator vet which was not needed in first place

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20 Feb 2016, 01:08 AMThamor

Nice job, shows how allies have the most wins in these match setups.

I don't think a 5% +/- means anything besides it's a very balanced match up.

We will never achieve a perfect 50-50 split as long as CoH has more than 1 faction and has unsymmetrical maps. In CS:GO the only competitive map that has an almost perfect 50-50 ratio is dust2 which is like 49-51 T sided. Otherwise it's very common to see 55-45, 53-47, 57-43 etc.

But numbers aren't the end all anyway, crossing the woods is probably hell for USF if the enemy picks wehrmacht due to snipers.

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20 Feb 2016, 03:47 AMashxu

I don't think a 5% +/- means anything besides it's a very balanced match up.

We will never achieve a perfect 50-50 split as long as CoH has more than 1 faction and has unsymmetrical maps. In CS:GO the only competitive map that has an almost perfect 50-50 ratio is dust2 which is like 49-51 T sided. Otherwise it's very common to see 55-45, 53-47, 57-43 etc.

But numbers aren't the end all anyway, crossing the woods is probably hell for USF if the enemy picks wehrmacht due to snipers.

Actually these show pretty well, both players play both sides. So these stats are pretty accurate, I don't mean that allied OP or anything just show how they have the advantage. It's all up to the player to be able to use that advantage.

Axis you need high micro, good intuition to get that advantage from allies nullified. Then you still need to not make mistakes to get those finishing blows...(Although same can be said for allies too)

ps. It's over 10% difference with some factions...

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20 Feb 2016, 04:30 AMThamor

Actually these show pretty well, both players play both sides. So these stats are pretty accurate, I don't mean that allied OP or anything just show how they have the advantage. It's all up to the player to be able to use that advantage.

Axis you need high micro, good intuition to get that advantage from allies nullified. Then you still need to not make mistakes to get those finishing blows...(Although same can be said for allies too)

ps. It's over 10% difference with some factions...

I assume you mean in the individual MUs, they have a smaller sample size however it's no surprise that UKF are struggling.

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20 Feb 2016, 03:33 AMashxu

Wehrmacht is underpowered and needs some major buffs

But in all seriousness, why did USF fall out of popularity? Weren't they pretty strong before the OKW revamp?

Anyway thanks for the data, Siphon X. This info is way better than people constantly quoting coh2charts numbers.

when did USF fall out of popularity?

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20 Feb 2016, 04:46 AMedibleshrapnel

when did USF fall out of popularity?

well they ARE the least used at ESL despite how strong their early game is

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20 Feb 2016, 04:47 AMashxu

well they ARE the least used at ESL despite how strong their early game is

That doesn't make it unpopular, and they had highest win rate.

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20 Feb 2016, 04:51 AMedibleshrapnel

That doesn't make it unpopular, and they had highest win rate.

Even in automatch they are by far the least played in the top 150 according to coh2charts.

don't know how much more evidence you need

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I love stats, nomnomnom. Are you going to keep updating, or start fresh after the Feb patch?

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.583
+4
3.
Falko_nero22
666
345
.659
+12
4.
[SVO] ✠Kaiser✠ tushkan
730
455
.616
+2
5.
★Osas
181
68
.727
+7
6.
André
670
257
.723
+2
7.
-AL- Nimahfrosch
1052
573
.647
+1
8.
Zirty Zoggy
146
38
.793
-1
9.
아리스킨충
375
196
.657
+1
10.
Flap
527
286
.648
+1

                    

                        1.
Vertsu
500
182
.733
-1
2.
Kilder
876
394
.690
+2
3.
★Osas
648
294
.688
+6
4.
Artyom
254
70
.784
-1
5.
Richmond
259
116
.691
+4
6.
Cow
236
86
.733
+2
7.
.OneTwo
1186
851
.582
+2
8.
Perun777
596
348
.631
+1
9.
Lieutenant
374
261
.589
-1
10.
Zsirbacsi
333
189
.638
+6

                    

                        1.
godjaemin
653
260
.715
+4
2.
我喜欢你——！！
746
306
.709
+5
3.
昂撒猪猪拳
1769
852
.675
+14
4.
DesTo
865
505
.631
+5
5.
Shrimp
675
313
.683
-1
6.
King of Lee
3413
1984
.632
+13
7.
中红辣椒
1863
1078
.633
-1
8.
SpacePig
382
185
.674
+2
9.
iiooppkl
365
146
.714
+4
10.
奔跑的兔子CN
3165
1525
.675
-1

                    

                        1.
GiantDwarf
263
34
.886
+25
2.
GiantDwarf
666
179
.788
+4
3.
Zirty Zoggy
250
45
.847
+62
4.
vonLewinski
409
151
.730
+11
5.
TRI1091
276
84
.767
+12
6.
逼罗，逼罗 你妈很滑很润
1201
456
.725
-1
7.
night_raven0203
3520
1735
.670
+1
8.
SKELETRON
2037
689
.747
+2
9.
蓝色天线宝宝
192
88
.686
+15
10.
红色卫兵
165
48
.775
+15

                    

                        1.
DIRTY_FINISHER
2656
1446
.647
+7
2.
TRI1091
469
194
.707
+1
3.
☞ ps3YES ☜
854
363
.702
-1
4.
BatON
1181
783
.601
+7
5.
godjaemin
171
69
.713
-1
6.
Zirty Zoggy
77
21
.786
+5
7.
Marcel
68
29
.701
+1
8.
IncaUna
221
112
.664
-1
9.
William H. Harrison
485
205
.703
+1
10.
gardening lelic
873
465
.652
+4

                    

                        1.
SFC. LEE ッ
3127
1012
.755
-4
2.
Jerry
95
16
.856
+18
3.
Mr.Brightside
703
366
.658
+5
4.
Restzeit
643
336
.657
+9
5.
Nika
257
104
.712
+1
6.
Riiiiina
446
163
.732
-1
7.
Cid
90
25
.783
+2
8.
Rusovsky
44
13
.772
+6
9.
JOE
1207
737
.621
-1
10.
쿨게이
227
119
.656
+3

                    

                        1.
傻卵死全家开图挂壁们拉闸了吧
424
287
.596
-1
2.
King of Lee
754
573
.568
+2
3.
蝌蚪身上纹青蛙，你在秀你妈
501
316
.613
+1
4.
玛丽猫猫
875
739
.542
-1
5.
Jax
161
67
.706
+1
6.
我喜欢你——！！
369
234
.612
+6
7.
godjaemin
352
263
.572
-1
8.
Shi Ku Liao
885
633
.583
-2
9.
BATTLEDANNY1
489
335
.593
-1
10.
BiliBilI_23984226_Luckyman55
611
411
.598
-1

                    

                        1.
逼罗，逼罗 你妈很滑很润
655
231
.739
+15
2.
-虎贲-快樂的小蝸牛-HOI-
842
223
.791
+5
3.
Bober
940
410
.696
+6
4.
MoronPark_Cat YE
354
59
.857
-1
5.
Krakenn
599
234
.719
+7
6.
生米冲碳
278
108
.720
+29
7.
vonLewinski
307
114
.729
+3
8.
I'm YE and I Don't eat beef
64
5
.928
+5
9.
cblanco ★
269
143
.653
+2
10.
红色卫兵
106
29
.785
+7

                    

                        1.
☞ ps3YES ☜
2016
1084
.650
-1
2.
Flap
475
214
.689
+2
3.
IncaUna
584
358
.620
+1
4.
DIRTY_FINISHER
1685
923
.646
+8
5.
HazardousMoose
443
273
.619
+1
6.
André
339
140
.708
+16
7.
【Clannad】
214
68
.759
+12
8.
[虎贲] Leng Mo
119
50
.704
-1
9.
Aljosa - [BOBER]
244
163
.600
+5
10.
TheMeowGamer
102
37
.734
-1

                    

                        1.
Thales
771
291
.726
+4
2.
Remder
616
180
.774
+3
3.
Nika
216
90
.706
+19
4.
Jerry
170
49
.776
-1
5.
André
1006
438
.697
-1
6.
★Osas
362
155
.700
+3
7.
Ovidiu
1499
749
.667
-2
8.
NoPlayWithAsiaSync/Maphack
606
410
.596
+8
9.
SoE-Sturmpanther
365
60
.859
+4
10.
BATTLEDANNY1
83
22
.790
-1

                    

                        1.
Tharrats
784
626
.556
+2
2.
玛丽猫猫
579
417
.581
+4
3.
Shrimp
246
127
.660
-1
4.
BATTLEDANNY1
399
286
.582
+1
5.
ukill
197
158
.555
+2
6.
Rodinho
513
384
.572
+4
7.
一个坏人
134
47
.740
+4
8.
godjaemin
477
322
.597
-3
9.
Wagggggggh!哈哈
227
164
.581
-1
10.
フンッ！逃げるつもりかい！！
477
378
.558
+1

                    

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