Allies is almost impossible to lose in 3v3/4v4

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 21:10 PMBananenheld

according to the forum axis is ez Mode in large game modes and noone wants to abuse them i guess

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 21:47 PMCookiezNcreem

things have changed and theres no more proper axis players to adapt as they all ragequit after brit release. At least thats my theory.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 21:55 PMPancake Areolas

ah yes. This is the work of the brainless axis players failing to adapt to the ingenuity of the allied community. Boy I hope they come back.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 22:02 PMCookiezNcreem

playercard pls

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 23:00 PMcr4wler

maybe you should try playing axis every now and then, just to check out how "ez mode" they really are. protip: try ostheer. without osttruppen oder elite troops commander. have fun :-)

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 20:52 PMCookiezNcreem

dot it could be argued that your tournament wasnt the best data sample either, at least not so far.

Lets break down the matchups

SOE VS RTN

SOE #1 allied 4s team vs unranked RtN axis team that apparently didnt take the whole thing all that seriously, considering one of them "wasnt on teamspeak"(going off what momo was saying in twitch), of course SOE #1 allies team with a hundred games together wins over RtN axis.

RtN allies vs SOE axis, RtN wins as allies. Probably the best representation of a bit of imbalance, as the 8 seed beat the 1 seed's axis. Even though the RtN team player per player was easily a top 4 best team in this entire thing, and it was kinda a crime they were seeded so low. anyway thats not the point but may have been why SoE struggled with them as axis.

TATUS vs FOCUS

Tatus #1 allied team vs Focus top 5 axis team, allied TATUS team won(128-0 team?) i dont know exactly how that series went, but unless it was a stomp, that doesnt mean allies are OP either. it just means the better players won. It was also the most 'balanced' matchup of the first round, being 4 seed vs 5 seed.

gdot you played in this, so correct me if im wrong, you saying Focus Allies won right? Fine, however, (Im going off your playercard here so again correct me if im wrong) You guys(TATUS)play way more allies than axis. Obviosuly, you will struggle as axis, period.

RUKA VS COHBROS

RUKA vs cohbros, again, cohbros also a primarily allied team, vs a great team like RUKA. Of course, RUKA allies win.

I dont know if cohbros allies won or not so i wont comment.

USF ALL STARS VS NS

and then, USF all stars....vs NS. Of course, NS wins their allied round vs our patchwork axis team as well as us, being mainly an allied team, winning as allies.


So the "Oh allies won all their matchups... allies op?" without realizing the fact that almost all the teams here except FOCUS and SOE were primarily allied teams, isn't a proper argument or measuring stick for balance either, in my opinion.

The real question is where are all the good axis 4v4 teams besides focus and SOE? are allies THAT op, that those teams are extinct now?

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 23:00 PMcr4wler

...says the guy with a USF sig, that is in a clan called "USF Allstars" or something like that and fanboys around the forums all day... with barely any axis games played :-)

maybe you should try playing axis every now and then, just to check out how "ez mode" they really are. protip: try ostheer. without osttruppen oder elite troops commander. have fun :-)

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 23:20 PMCookiezNcreem

try playing all usf 4v4 without calliope and pershing commander, and check out how ez mode they are. have fun

protip:I have almost 700 games as axis, hardly "barely", and a little over 1,000 as usf.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 23:52 PMRedT3rror

Someone didn't get the irony about that clan.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2016, 00:21 AMcr4wler

idk whats ironic about it.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2016, 00:21 AMcr4wler

idk whats ironic about it. most of the guys that i know of that are in the clan are primarily allied players (self-proclaimed) and out of those there's at least like 4-5 guys that spam every balance thread here with "l2p" or "axis op" without rhyme or reason.

if you are talking about the "allstars" part... dunno how good they are, but i guess that there probably are a few guys that are pretty good at playing usf as well.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 23:24 PMGdot

I appreciate the time you've taken to analyze this and you make some great connections. To me, I never attribute a value to subjective data analysis.

Seems like people are assigning many factors to the axis teams losing, some reasons may be pretty convincing, but all I can tell you is that allies won every game no matter the match, and each game was lopsided in the allies favor. These are facts. These lead me to believe there may be something to this and I will certainly look to find anymore concrete data or answers that may support this hypothesis.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2016, 00:44 AMRedT3rror

Did you never come across players which use iron cross signs or other axis insignias/names as clantags?

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2016, 01:00 AMCookiezNcreem

Could you Bait any harder? And Who from our clan says L2P? Or even axis Op? Can you quote said posts?

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 09:52 AMPorygon

Your playercard disagree with you.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2016, 01:11 AMcr4wler

idk, but taking yourself would be a good start, like in this thread. team goes 18-0 as allies, gets number 1 spot, but ofc they're noobs that didn't face any decent teams... has nothing to do with maybe allies being too strong obviously. because axis is too strong.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2016, 01:11 AMcr4wler

again... just go out and try playing axis and you will see how "ez mode" they are. and, to add credibility... try argueing for allied nerfs/axis buffs as well as just for axis nerfs and allied buffs.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2016, 03:54 AMCookiezNcreem

Do you understand any team of players with 1,000 hours or more and or top 200 skill could probably go 20-0 in team games with allies or axis simply because you will almost always play vs randoms that cant tell their shoe from their dick and not the other top AT's? When did i call anyone a noob? Can you read?