Two bugs:
1. Have wrong icon When you select commander ingame appears wrong icon
Mechanized Grenadier Group.
2. Prices wrong Both have a very similar price
Mechanized Grenadier Group & Mechanized Assault Group
Mechanized Grenadier/Assault Group
12 Jan 2016, 17:23 PM
#1
Posts: 985 | Subs: 2
Two bugs:
1. Have wrong icon When you select commander ingame appears wrong icon
Mechanized Grenadier Group.
2. Prices wrong Both have a very similar price
Mechanized Grenadier Group & Mechanized Assault Group
12 Jan 2016, 18:19 PM
#2
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Posts: 3052 | Subs: 15
I'm pretty sure the LMG grenadiers that come in this halftrack still have insane vet 2 rifle nade range as well since they're a separate squad.
Unless it was changed, then I stand corrected.
Unless it was changed, then I stand corrected.
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12 Jan 2016, 18:36 PM
#3
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Added the Icon to our database. Prices are as intended. Thanks
12 Jan 2016, 19:11 PM
#4
Posts: 4928
I'm pretty sure the LMG grenadiers that come in this halftrack still have insane vet 2 rifle nade range as well since they're a separate squad.
Unless it was changed, then I stand corrected.
Nope, they have the original Vet 2 from Grenadiers; it was never changed because like you said, they're a different squad. grenadier_squad_mp was nerfed, grenadier_squad_mg42lmg_mp was forgotten. In fact I wonder if any other changes were forgotten since then.
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> Kriegsbeute Doctrine|Partisan Rework|British Infantry Rework|Soviet Assault Squad <
12 Jan 2016, 19:53 PM
#5
Posts: 677
Nope, they have the original Vet 2 from Grenadiers; it was never changed because like you said, they're a different squad. grenadier_squad_mp was nerfed, grenadier_squad_mg42lmg_mp was forgotten. In fact I wonder if any other changes were forgotten since then.
They also don't get penalty when building and under fire, if I remember correctly...
Imo it would allot better if instead of grenadiers one got stormtroopers...Would make the ability more appealing... [to take a bit further and if 250 could be upgraded with spotting scope...even further and gain veterancy (share with occupants? get a gun?)]
12 Jan 2016, 22:56 PM
#6
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Imo it would allot better if instead of grenadiers one got stormtroopers.
I prefer getting Grenadiers with a free weapon to Stormtroopers that must shell out 100 munitions for theirs.
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> Kriegsbeute Doctrine|Partisan Rework|British Infantry Rework|Soviet Assault Squad <
12 Jan 2016, 23:00 PM
#7
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I prefer getting Grenadiers with a free weapon to Stormtroopers that must shell out 100 munitions for theirs.
Guess it is matter of opinion, the thing is 250/lmg gren have little utility since one can easily built the grens. On the other hand calling in Stormtroopers would give access to an exotic unit making it a bit more appealing...
13 Jan 2016, 03:50 AM
#8
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afaik ost snipers can still abuse the 250 although the doctrines are so unpopular i don't think anyone bothers.
13 Jan 2016, 06:42 AM
#9
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afaik ost snipers can still abuse the 250
What do you mean?
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
13 Jan 2016, 06:47 AM
#10
Posts: 432
What do you mean?
Loading up inside the Sdkfz 250 halftrack and shooting out of it, a-la Soviet clown cars back in the day.
13 Jan 2016, 06:49 AM
#11
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Loading up inside the Sdkfz 250 halftrack and shooting out of it, a-la Soviet clown cars back in the day.
Dam' I didn't know that.
Well, time to abuse, I guess. Lol.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
13 Jan 2016, 06:54 AM
#12
Posts: 1153 | Subs: 1
Dam' I didn't know that.
Well, time to abuse, I guess. Lol.
*begins rant*
just kidding. Have fun. don't be a dick about it. xD
13 Jan 2016, 07:32 AM
#13
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*begins rant*
just kidding. Have fun. don't be a dick about it. xD
Well it can work with mechanized assault too, which is a pretty decent doctrine.
Relic should fix this bug/exploit too, of course.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
13 Jan 2016, 10:21 AM
#14
Posts: 587
The ost sniper can't garrisons these HT's, they fixed that aswell.
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
13 Jan 2016, 10:27 AM
#15
Posts: 393
I'm pretty sure the LMG grenadiers that come in this halftrack still have insane vet 2 rifle nade range as well since they're a separate squad.
Unless it was changed, then I stand corrected.
Same with Lend lease PPSH guards in the M5 still have the higher AoE nades.
The only reason COH2 is still around, is because it's preserved by salt.
13 Jan 2016, 17:24 PM
#16
Posts: 17
Personally for the price the HT from doctrines SHOULD REINFORCE i mean it costs 30 fuel! but the HT can't actually do anything? I mean even the american equivalent with Engineers and M5 can reinforce.
13 Jan 2016, 17:28 PM
#17
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Personally for the price the HT from doctrines SHOULD REINFORCE i mean it costs 30 fuel! but the HT can't actually do anything? I mean even the american equivalent with Engineers and M5 can reinforce.
One of the reasons i don't use that doctrine, it is too cost inefficient when you can't use it to reinforce your other units on the field with it. :< literally the only halftrack to call-in and not be able to reinforce
Me: I am scared, that i will need to shake ma head the same as when i read ur posts, so i rather not
Katitof: Its not even close to me even at my worst in the past, imagine ullu, incendiary, aaa, vetlolcake and disto merge into one mega axis zord with forcefield protecting it from accepting any factual data. Add to that a victim card(his rumblings at my PM).
Katitof: Its not even close to me even at my worst in the past, imagine ullu, incendiary, aaa, vetlolcake and disto merge into one mega axis zord with forcefield protecting it from accepting any factual data. Add to that a victim card(his rumblings at my PM).
13 Jan 2016, 17:56 PM
#18
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One of the reasons i don't use that doctrine, it is too cost inefficient when you can't use it to reinforce your other units on the field with it. :< literally the only halftrack to call-in and not be able to reinforce
That's a general theme with a lot of commanders and units in the game. When it comes to call-ins, the CPs may not match up for a good time in the game (Valentine), the units may be too expensive (these 250 halftracks, Mechanized Co. HT call in w/Assault Engineer), or they are not as powerful as a unit you could get at the same time (Stuart vs. M8 Greyhound).
Some units need an HP buff (M8 Scott) or clearly defined roles (conscripts vs. Penals), or some abilities need to get their stats changed to align with what they do (USF 240mm artillery vs. German railway artillery)
Making minor changes to a few units will do a few things like increase the chances of people buying dlc commanders that are mediocre or bad at the moment, but also introduce more differing but viable strategies/builds into the game.
Relic already did this when they adjusted Captain price and Stuart HP; that's one example.
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