Remove FRP? yay or nay.

If you let things go in the red, you act far too late :/


Never. You where the one comparing reinforcing on the fiend and FRP. I just gave you my opinion.


There is no problem with blobbing, unless you learn the game. And OF COURSE it does give you an advantage on larger maps, you just paid through the nose to have that opportunity. it-has-a-cost. Who the hell want a FRP on Arnhem Checkpoint?


FRP is a cool feat in my opinion. Never to be seen in 1v1 and very amusing in 4v4 where team-members co-operate to create strongholds and safepoints in cityfight. My heart litteraly beat for thoses moment when i launch a 4v4.
I just dont see the point to remove/nerf/buff it. I defy you to show me 3 replay 1v1 where FRP where the wincondition of a match. It never was a problem before and it was here like forever.

Kozo.

Uhhh no. FRPs didn't exist until USF/OKW were introduced. Yes, you are right, the problem is not problematic in 1v1s because the map is small.

And now i reiterate. If FRPs have no impact on 1v1, then removing it would be of no consequence. We did not say that we would remove the reinforce option. Reinforcing has been there "forever". You can still build forward reinforce points in team games and what not to gain a strategic advantage over a location.

So continue to argue that FRPs make no difference in gameplay please. You're just supporting the argument that it has no value and is not needed. Thanks.

Keep the FRP, just make any side that has a FRP, they have to arm their squads from the main base.

It's BS OKW can have an FRP with med, and instantaneously get arms in the field, while USF has to go all the way back. OKW can and does just apply constant pressure with the blob since they can arm anywhere and quickly get back to the fight.

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no need to watch the whole thing.

just watch first 10 min(?) of bottom fuel engagement.

that medic bases - so much skill, so much risk v. reward.

Just remove it already

Should stay but everyone should get one.
Ost- bunker upgrade
Sov- M5 halftrack upgrade (& lockdown).

Should stay but everyone should get one.
Ost- bunker upgrade
Sov- M5 halftrack upgrade (& lockdown).

So everyone can blob easily?

Remove it already.

BUY A FUCKING MACHINE GUN.
BUY MORE THAN ONE.
BUY LIKE THREE.
WIN.

Seriously, the counter to both forward retreat points and blobs is suppression.

BUY A FUCKING MACHINE GUN.
BUY MORE THAN ONE.
BUY LIKE THREE.
WIN.

Seriously, the counter to both forward retreat points and blobs is suppression.

You have never played a team game against two okw I see. Again Suppression is not worth shit if they can nade and run back 5 feet, then come back and do it again. You really need to understand this point. Only blobers vote to keep forward retreat point. Only blobers. And this argument you bring shows your mentality.

So everyone can blob easily?

Remove it already.

I am with him. The game was better before FRP.

Oh yes, remove FRP and gives HT-reinforcement to every factions. Can't wait for RifleLMG blob can reinforce on the battlefield are too OP.

People just do not evaluate the risk from their wishes.

I'm not particularly against removing FRP but how many of you are actually using HT efficiently and see their true power associated with a blob?

This and OKW and USF doesn't have access to mortar and HMG early on, so how will those faction be able to hold the line while 1/3 of their army is at base reinforcing?

Remove FRP, remove shrecks on Volks, and we're golden

You have never played a team game against two okw I see. Again Suppression is not worth shit if they can nade and run back 5 feet, then come back and do it again.

If you have enough suppression, they can't even get into nade range.

Seriously, build like 3 maxims and attack move when you see someone blobbing.

Oh yes, remove FRP and gives HT-reinforcement to every factions. Can't wait for RifleLMG blob can reinforce on the battlefield are too OP.

People just do not evaluate the risk from their wishes.

I'm not particularly against removing FRP but how many of you are actually using HT efficiently and see their true power associated with a blob?

This and OKW and USF doesn't have access to mortar and HMG early on, so how will those faction be able to hold the line while 1/3 of their army is at base reinforcing?

But rifle lmg blob can already reinforce on the field, huh?

They wont run'n'nade if you have screen troops at the front of your mgs

But rifle lmg blob can already reinforce on the field, huh?

On your territory, now imagine it anywhere.

On your territory, now imagine it anywhere.

What about quad from mobile support?

What about quad from mobile support?

Dunno, I don't own it. What about? But the M3 from mechanized is nice but too squishy and damn too expensive, I tried several time to hard push with it but requires too much babysitting.

maybe im crazy but the way i see it they should give all faction forward retreat points or remove them entirely. The latter of which i don't think will ever happen. the biggest problme i find is that not all factions have them which espeically on larger maps put them at disadvantage. though if all had it youd probably have to blance when they get forward retreat point.

Keep the FRP, just make any side that has a FRP, they have to arm their squads from the main base.

It's BS OKW can have an FRP with med, and instantaneously get arms in the field, while USF has to go all the way back. OKW can and does just apply constant pressure with the blob since they can arm anywhere and quickly get back to the fight.

+1


In other thoughts because of soviet and ost early access to mgs and mortars I feel like they don't need the FRP as much as they have tools to hold the line. Also USF really has to wait until major is unlocked anyway to have a actual retreat something I have always though gives okw the benefit on constant pressure because theirs comes so much earlier than others as well as not having to go back to base. UKF possibly can get theirs at the same time and can equip weapons at it but because of the way they are designed I feel its almost impossible to blob with them and they just do not having the offensive push.

either way I feel like the FRP's can be used against the enemy as much as they can be use full with a well timed call in or rocket arty, however the way the rocket arty is now it can really punish soviet and ost for going heavy support weapon builds.

I don't know most the time with USF I feel I have no options late game but to blob because that is what the enemy is going to do and 1 rifle squad simply does not beat 2 volk squads or 1 gren squad with lmg imo or what have you and the .50 cal comes out too late as well as USF has no mortar to counter indirect fire so .50cal is not going to be around very long with incediary grenades and rifle nades on top of that why build it when I can just build another rifle squad that will probably last most the game.

Moral of the story I don't think FRP is the issue, I think its shreks on volks (take shreks away implement the 4 man tank buster squad that will have bad AI) and give USF a different starting option (non-doct mortar where .50cal is now and move .50cal to tier 0 or vice versa.

Keep the FRP, just make any side that has a FRP, they have to arm their squads from the main base.

It's BS OKW can have an FRP with med, and instantaneously get arms in the field, while USF has to go all the way back. OKW can and does just apply constant pressure with the blob since they can arm anywhere and quickly get back to the fight.

They also made volks able to upgrade in enemy territory for some bizarre reason....