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28 Dec 2015, 14:16 PM
#1
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Congratz Hans and tofu for winning the EU and NA kick-off cups respectively. Use this thread to discuss the series. It was nice to see Hans going koo-koo after winning over Jove last night. :P

I thought the Swiss system worked well for an unseeded cup. I'm still very unsure about this "map or faction" picking system with the cointoss and the Best-of-1's. I wonder how player's picking strategies will evolve.

OKW seemed to dominate. In the final game, Hans had 4 quintuple-vet (lol) Volks squads, each with a 'schrek. They seemed to be the most important unit throughout the games that I watched.
28 Dec 2015, 14:48 PM
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Final - okwokw HelpingHans vs Jove - Cast by tightrope

28 Dec 2015, 14:51 PM
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I like the swiss style. My one compliant would be that some players started their games very late. The first round for the NA cup, we waited for over two hours for everyone to finish.

I would ask ESL that players need to confirm that their match has started and we need a chat room so admins can keep us updated on what is going on.

Overall I would call both tournies a success. GJ to both winners.
A_E
28 Dec 2015, 15:07 PM
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Love how a little bit of extra exposure and an unusual format allows for some players to shine that usually might not.

I loved the format in principle, not the timing though, wish I'd worked out that it was one game an hour before I endeavoured to cast it. Fortunately a few Langreskaya classics made up for it towards the end.

Overall I enjoyed it, and it was a surprisingly good start to CoH2's 1v1 ESL season.
28 Dec 2015, 15:12 PM
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I enjoyed it! The current coh2 patch is the best in the games history, but tweaks to OKW and some other small things will really make it shine.

Great to see ESL and Relic making moves on Esports finally! Even if its on a smaller scale.
28 Dec 2015, 16:00 PM
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I'll provide some perspective for the NA side.

All in all, this tournament took about 11 - 12 hours. I had 4 games, 2 no shows, and a final game I threw because it was 3 AM in the morning and didn't really care at that point. I spent about 4-5 hours playing and 6-7 hours waiting. (the no shows should account for half of this)

Unlike the EU tournament, round 4 and up were best of 3s. Not only did it make the wait times extremely long, it just wore on all the players, most of who were either playing well into the night or even through the night. Combined with the double elim, most NA players dropped at the end, like paul and vindicare did.

I really, really, REALLY hope they don't repeat this style of tournament because frankly, it is a little insane to ask players to dedicate half a day on a sunday night. If they do, I can't see myself playing another tournament.
28 Dec 2015, 16:31 PM
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Watching Hans breakdown after his victory at the end was pretty special to watch, but that wasn't the best game of the night. His match vs EZ was not stop action. I was one the edge of my seat. There was encredible micro on both sides, and I don't think I saw Hans blink more than I couple time; he was putting his all into that game.

7h35m on his twitch recording. Highly recommend checking it out. Maybe someone wants to cast it to?

Edit: EZ made a new fan out of me. Does he stream?
28 Dec 2015, 17:44 PM
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There were many good games in the tourney and fortunately,I won 1st prize in NA division.

Thank you for all who fought against me,it's all GG.And thank you for all who cheered me up :)

Overall it was a good tourney,but,I found the rules was quite a bit of fuzzy.


First,we don't know the game will be BO1 or BO3 at all.The rule says "BO1 / Quarter Finals and above: BO3"

But every round has its number:there are no word "Quarter" or "Final".

At first,there were 6 rounds in the NA tourney so we could suppose Round 6 should be the Final,and Round 5 should be the Semi Final and Round 4 shuld be the Quarter one.

However,all rounds ended in BO1.How did I got to know that?Well,both sides(me and my opponent) have to confirm the result on ESL tourney page after each game,and when both sides checked the result after 1st match,ESL says you are winner/loser of the round.

In fact,even the final round was BO1.I wonder where is Quarter Finals and above :(


Second is about Schedule.I said there were 6 rounds in NA Cup.When the torney began,I remember there were only 6 rounds:it was one less than Euro Cup so it remains in my memory.

Finally,I played 10 rounds...wow...4 rounds poped out after me and PauL.a.D finished THE FINAL.

How do you feel if you are told that you have to work more 4 hours just after 8 hours hard work.I believe this lead to karoshi :p

Furthermore,ESL also said the Cup has finished...I have no idea at all.

Below is SS of my ESL page.It was taken the end of Round 9,yes Round 10 (vs.VindicareX again) hadn't finished yet.But the right side of the page declare that the Cup has finished and I'm No.1 :unsure:

Are you confused? ME TOO!!!




Third thing is the different rule from EU Cup.Admin of the ESL said that additional rounds popped out because not all players had lost two times.

They said NA tourney has 2 lives so the tourney lasts until all players (except winner) defeat two times.Well,I admit EU Cup is different from NA Cup,but EU Cup decided its winner although there remains only 1 loss player(like jove,Jesulin).

The biggest victim is PauL.a.D He should be No.1 in NA division.He won all games (he beat me at Round 6) but he must not know that I'm zombie which has two lives :p He didn't show up after Round 7.

I especially praise his Mental strength.He is the only one who joined both EU and NA Cup! Playing almost 24 hours at high level isn't the usual.Great PauL.a.D


And as RedxWings says,there are sooooo loooooong waiting.I bet Vindicare didn't come last match because he took a nap or just bored of waiting.

After all,I won the 1st prize because I manage to go on playing.My torney time is more than 12 hours...I'm so tired now.
28 Dec 2015, 18:05 PM
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esport! ESPORT!
28 Dec 2015, 18:29 PM
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Congrats to Hans and Tofu for winning EU/NA.

Some really fun games to watch, some great play.

My biggest concern, probably to no surprise, is the timing issues. Spectators don't want to have to sit around for significant periods of time between matches and participants get bored as well. Having to devote upwards of 10 hours every Sunday for months on end to win $100 a week isn't worth it. Tons of players won't be able to commit to this sort of schedule and many more will get burned out after the first month.

My other concern is that this is just too many small tournaments back to back to back for our small community. I think we would be better off having a big event every few months and then a few smaller events in-between to keep things rolling. Weekly cups might work for a community like Hearthstone where the top players are going to be traveling to big events, giving other players a chance to make a name for themselves during the weekly events... but for us... I just see people getting burnt out and wanting something new - or even a break from the tournament grind - because 10+ hours per Sunday of waiting/playing week in and week out is a grind, not a competition.
28 Dec 2015, 18:36 PM
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28 Dec 2015, 20:12 PM
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Is it really Bo1?
28 Dec 2015, 20:27 PM
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The Go4COH weekly cups won't have the same structure I believe.
28 Dec 2015, 20:36 PM
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Great for action.

But the waiting between matches was seriously hard on participants, casters and viewers alike.

On the fence with BO1. Its contrary to coh/2 tradition as BO3. Its faster, yes, but we also all love a revenge/grudge/recovery match.
A_E
28 Dec 2015, 20:47 PM
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Some casts:

Paul vs. Barton



Jesulin vs. Jove



extra clip:



Siberian vs. Noganno



28 Dec 2015, 20:48 PM
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The problem is with the 'Swiss Style' Tournament. This type of tournament is designed so players are evenly matched up against each other, from the beginning to the end. This, for the game of Company of Heroes is not necessarily a good thing because this causes the games to last a long time. We all know how long matches can last when players are evenly matched. I guess this is ESL's way of getting their seed's for future events that they host.

Seeded style tournament's are the way to go, the problem is the ESL staff doesn't know our community enough, and they also didn't probably want to take the time to check all the players steam id's and see where they sat in the auto-match ladder.

Seeded tournament's work the best in my opinion, the first few rounds wont last too long, or shouldn't because the 'higher' seeds are more skilled, and they would be matched against 'lower' seeds, creating the tournament to have short first few rounds. Much like March Madness.

Anyways, all in all it was fun to watch the competition, thanks for all the casters/players for providing us with viewing pleasure.
28 Dec 2015, 22:41 PM
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The problem is with the 'Swiss Style' Tournament. This type of tournament is designed so players are evenly matched up against each other, from the beginning to the end. This, for the game of Company of Heroes is not necessarily a good thing because this causes the games to last a long time. We all know how long matches can last when players are evenly matched. I guess this is ESL's way of getting their seed's for future events that they host.

Seeded style tournament's are the way to go, the problem is the ESL staff doesn't know our community enough, and they also didn't probably want to take the time to check all the players steam id's and see where they sat in the auto-match ladder.

Seeded tournament's work the best in my opinion, the first few rounds wont last too long, or shouldn't because the 'higher' seeds are more skilled, and they would be matched against 'lower' seeds, creating the tournament to have short first few rounds. Much like March Madness.

Anyways, all in all it was fun to watch the competition, thanks for all the casters/players for providing us with viewing pleasure.


The admins do not check if matches even started. Most of the downtime was because players were not experienced with ESL chat system and how to report games. I have played ESL for other games and I knew this would be an issue. When you play a Go4LOL cup the tourney lasts like 18 hours.
29 Dec 2015, 06:29 AM
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Stupid question: Where do i find the past cup? The only one i found are the upcoming cups.
29 Dec 2015, 09:53 AM
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Thank you for all the kind comments guys.

I think the main problem with this current set-up is that players as well as viewers as waiting too long between matches. I started at 10pm and finished around 7:30am. That's a ridiculous amount of to put aside for a tournament. The same happened with the OCF tournament as well so it's not the Swiss format to blame. What should be done is set a 3-4 round limit per day. Either make the tourney last over 2 days or make it so that tournaments last ever 2 weeks. Opinions?
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27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy :clap:
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
Soheil: Coh2 still broken server ?
25 Mar 2025, 18:27 PM
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24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
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22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Willy Pete: @Nickbn you didn't ask a question, and this is a chat box...
20 Mar 2025, 13:11 PM
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20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
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18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
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18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
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16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
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16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
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16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
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14 Mar 2025, 22:09 PM
aerafield: @adamírcz aren't the first two disconnects free every day?
14 Mar 2025, 19:26 PM
Rosbone: It is so unlike Relic to punish its fans and community.
14 Mar 2025, 12:07 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
Rosbone: Just making mistake after mistake after mistake.
13 Mar 2025, 19:57 PM
Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
Rosbone: For a thing they could fix in minutes. Literally minutes.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
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12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me.
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
theekvn: + 33% dmg rear hit was best deal ever.
12 Mar 2025, 04:00 AM
theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
theekvn: you rather go 76 to unity Whizbang 2.0 or go home.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: also US tier 4 is 145f and Sherman pen 140 nerf is too much.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: Whizbang lock behind CP, meanwhile stuka is techtree progress
12 Mar 2025, 03:51 AM
KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM
aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem?
06 Mar 2025, 13:33 PM
Lady Xenarra: I think post-2.0 Whizbang buffs, the price is too low esp since the Stuka got nerfed in cost too. Speaking of which, how exactly is one supposed to successfully dive this Sherman in disguise? Med tank spam running into SSFs?
06 Mar 2025, 12:13 PM
OKSpitfire: A powerful, doctrinal unit that outperforms stock stuff? Colour me shocked! :P
06 Mar 2025, 10:49 AM
Willy Pete: Cool you wanna lose your stock lategame arty too then?
06 Mar 2025, 03:20 AM
Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive. :rofl:
05 Mar 2025, 20:27 PM
Rosbone: It is also hard to expect Relic to help Coh2 when they cant even make working menus in Coh3 yet, 2 years after release and at full price+ for DLCs. Thats like asking a fish to do calculus.
04 Mar 2025, 02:58 AM
Rosbone: But this last patch has made good progress for grabbing players. All we can hope is Coh3 gets to Coh2s quality level before everyone abandons the franchise. Its Relic so they will completely f*%k it up as usual. But its a hope/cope.
04 Mar 2025, 02:55 AM
Rosbone: Relic wants Coh2 to fail so players will migrate to Coh3. It is hard to blame them since Coh3 sucks so bad. It needs all the help it can get.
04 Mar 2025, 02:53 AM
Soheil: Coh2 is dead , full of map hackers , and lelic knows that but ...
04 Mar 2025, 01:26 AM
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03 Mar 2025, 13:05 PM
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03 Mar 2025, 06:48 AM
OKSpitfire: @aerafield that does sound familiar
02 Mar 2025, 09:06 AM
aerafield: @Lady Xenarra :rofl:
02 Mar 2025, 01:45 AM
Lady Xenarra: Ah, the gren faust-replacing-rifles bug/exploit. :ph34r:
01 Mar 2025, 18:24 PM
aerafield: CoH3 high elo is truly the dumbest CoH experience that ever existed
01 Mar 2025, 17:25 PM
aerafield: @OKSpitfire tbh I find it quite challenging to get the Pershing in time, having to suffer through the CoH3 tickrate and this endless bullshit meta of massive blobs going back and forth to the forward heal truck
01 Mar 2025, 17:24 PM
OKSpitfire: Well... going to be seeing the Pershing a lot for a little while, that thing is a monster.
01 Mar 2025, 11:44 AM
NigelBallsworth: axis stuff is getting more meme by the second
28 Feb 2025, 23:32 PM
aerafield: Cloaked instapin MGs at 0cp. I wanna see no more crying about the Dingo while that shit is in the game :snfPeter:
28 Feb 2025, 20:38 PM
Willy Pete: And only on annihilation, and I have to let the AI live long enough...
28 Feb 2025, 02:04 AM
Willy Pete: Pershing is absurd, but ive still only gotten to use it against AI
28 Feb 2025, 02:03 AM
Lady Xenarra: WTB Pershing for Axis, that is all :lolol:
27 Feb 2025, 13:32 PM
donofsandiego: :clap:
27 Feb 2025, 02:34 AM
donofsandiego: Return of the chatGPT writing prompt. Lets see how shinasukac responds to these questions utilizing the Socratic Method. Maybe he will give us an interesting look into his opinions
27 Feb 2025, 02:34 AM
Willy Pete: I havent even seen a pershing yet. Coh3 games still move too fast for it lol
27 Feb 2025, 00:30 AM
shinasukac: kingtiger=kingjoker
26 Feb 2025, 16:27 PM
Lady Xenarra: Has anyone actually used the KT much? My experience is that the match is usually over long before I get the CPs for it
26 Feb 2025, 14:35 PM
Rosbone: Can someone message me the day you can look at Coh3 and not face palm yourself in disbelief that actual humans worked on it? Much appreciated.
26 Feb 2025, 06:40 AM
Rosbone: The only way to feel good about Coh3 is to never look at Coh3. Once you see it, you cant unsee it.
26 Feb 2025, 06:37 AM
Rosbone: Observer mode sucks, player stats pages are scatter brained mess, etc etc etc
26 Feb 2025, 06:35 AM
Rosbone: It is really hard to tell people to buy the DLC with feeling like they are throwing their money down the toilet for a nearly dead game. But Big Tonks!!! Oh well, not my problem.
25 Feb 2025, 18:12 PM
Rosbone: No 4v4 maps, busted menus 2 years after release, still have not fixed janky sounds people have complained about for over 2 years, etc etc.
25 Feb 2025, 18:10 PM
Rosbone: And the skirmish menus are still at a BETA level. Just the largest game play mode completely ignored... again.
25 Feb 2025, 18:09 PM
Willy Pete: Oh wtf. Yeah the crossing remake was in the 2v2 demo. No more 3s and 4s is a bummer tho
25 Feb 2025, 16:42 PM
aerafield: What? No, he means that all the new maps are for 1v1. Though Im pretty sure they will be playable in 2v2 as well
25 Feb 2025, 15:50 PM
Willy Pete: Are the maps really locked behind dlc? Surely they must be in the regular update
25 Feb 2025, 15:22 PM
Rosbone: I would like to join in celebration with the 9% of Coh3 MP players who are getting ALL of the new maps. Woohoo! #3Tards
21 Feb 2025, 19:22 PM
OKSpitfire: I hope that at least one of heavies is a like-for-like reskin of the coh 2 ISU-152. I miss that thing.
21 Feb 2025, 10:23 AM
Rosbone: Buy our cool new large tanks that will never get played on the 4 new 1v1 maps added. Perfect synergy! :facepalm:
20 Feb 2025, 19:23 PM
Rosbone: Everyone ready for some deep penetration :snfPeter:
20 Feb 2025, 17:13 PM
Lady Xenarra: I'm sure the ppl who defended it as balanced for Allies will be screaming like they got scaled with boiling water, in COH3. How the tables turn.
20 Feb 2025, 11:33 AM
Willy Pete: I think it was nuts with any engine damage. Especially on superheavies
20 Feb 2025, 07:03 AM
aerafield: Personally I think without the ram ability, it's worse than loiters for example
20 Feb 2025, 00:09 AM
Willy Pete: It combined well with most slowing abilities, not just ram stuns
19 Feb 2025, 23:36 PM
Willy Pete: Only??? I think not being able to shoot it down and the ramp up effect also had something to do with it
19 Feb 2025, 23:34 PM
Willy Pete: Really
19 Feb 2025, 23:30 PM
aerafield: AT overwatch was broken only because it came with the faction of T34 ramming
19 Feb 2025, 22:29 PM
Willy Pete: Love to see Relic really learning from their past mistakes. Let's bring back the dumbest ability in coh2, and charge money for it
19 Feb 2025, 20:34 PM
Willy Pete: New DAK commander will have AT overwatch as alternate choice to elefant
19 Feb 2025, 20:33 PM
aaa: Funy thing new players dont know that. And are trying to compete vs hacks
19 Feb 2025, 10:33 AM
aaa: Online gaming is trash in general, not just coh. On high level there are all cheats in most games
19 Feb 2025, 10:24 AM
aaa: 2 cheaters in 3 days. MH and DH
19 Feb 2025, 09:57 AM
aerafield: I am a simple man, I build Humvees with Pathfinders and Missile Launchers inside, I am happy
18 Feb 2025, 20:57 PM
Lady Xenarra: aerafield lamevee spammer confirmed :nahnah:
18 Feb 2025, 20:42 PM
aerafield: those who know, know: https://www.reddit.com/r/CompanyOfHeroes/s/fPk4yLIgmK
18 Feb 2025, 15:40 PM
adamírcz: Might be onto somethin here, combine side armour existing, maps where flanking is a viable option, and hopefully also heavies actually being less manouverable than mediums (lookin at you coh2), and it might be fun gameplay
17 Feb 2025, 13:39 PM
Willy Pete: Shouldn't coh3 heavies actually have insane front armor values? The glory days of 400+ Kt armor wouldn't be as bad when side armor is a thing. Not to say its a good idea lol
14 Feb 2025, 23:14 PM
aerafield: But then again, maybe CoH3 superheavies should actually have insane armor values because the whole game is designed for the clumsy & inept anyway :snfPeter:
14 Feb 2025, 23:04 PM
aerafield: It's like you have to coordinate an entire orchestra of abilities and the correct units, meanwhile your opponent just clicks his 1 superheavy tank occasionally...
14 Feb 2025, 23:01 PM
aerafield: the giga frontal armor also made these units too oppressive in average or low ELO games
14 Feb 2025, 22:59 PM
aerafield: Massive HP pool but reasonable amount of armor is way healthier design
14 Feb 2025, 22:57 PM
aerafield: Say what you want, but the titanium frontal armor design of coh2 superheavies was bullshit. Too many bad players not getting punished for their bad micro because penetration RNG carries them
14 Feb 2025, 22:57 PM
Willy Pete: Also the attack ground with the pak40 looked perfect, that Pershing should be dead
14 Feb 2025, 19:18 PM
Willy Pete: Ahh just saw the other one that died. Some bad rng I think but there was an AT gun at med range for a chunk of that fight
14 Feb 2025, 19:14 PM
Willy Pete: Which KT? I saw one got almost deleted but it also showed its side to a hellcat AND the m5. I think the player even admitted he got lucky
14 Feb 2025, 19:10 PM
Lady Xenarra: I understand that the devs want to sell the Allied part of the DLC, but the KT got swiss cheesed like a COH2 bunker on treads :S
14 Feb 2025, 15:16 PM
SupremeStefan: They should make dlc separataly for axis and alies
14 Feb 2025, 10:28 AM
SupremeStefan: 25$ is actually a ok price for 40 abilites = 8 commanders = 4 battlegroups. But problem is that it comes in bundle
14 Feb 2025, 10:24 AM
Willy Pete: Have they shown the actual trees yet for the new commanders? Skimmed through the deep dive today, didnt see em
13 Feb 2025, 22:29 PM
Rosbone: Big Tonk boners incoming :hansGASM:
13 Feb 2025, 17:38 PM
donofsandiego: Probably not
12 Feb 2025, 14:57 PM
Lone-Wolf: Hi guys. Error code -4. Any fixes?
08 Feb 2025, 17:09 PM
donofsandiego: Probably not
07 Feb 2025, 16:57 PM
SkYisTheLimiT_CoH: any coh2.org admin there ?
07 Feb 2025, 12:43 PM
Lady Xenarra: Ever the contrarian, aerafield.
07 Feb 2025, 11:59 AM
aerafield: I havent seen the new units in action yet (whose BGs will not be purchased by too many people as they are pretty expensive I recon), but I can say with 100% confidence that the Pershing needs a buff
07 Feb 2025, 02:31 AM
Lady Xenarra: I would think lots more players would come/return since there's so many iconic units being added in the new BGs. I just don't want to hear another 8+ yrs of Pershing need buff complaints
06 Feb 2025, 23:22 PM
adamírcz: If I had my supply of copium, Id say they might at least get enough money to not have to wait 5 months with problems that should be a matter of bi-weekly hotfix
06 Feb 2025, 23:10 PM
adamírcz: I mean, its overpriced,
06 Feb 2025, 23:10 PM
Rosbone: Will it help or hurt the current player base is the real question. Should add more players, but may drive many away.
06 Feb 2025, 19:17 PM

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