Yes it is sad to need to chose a doctrine to have something different/heavier than Sherman/M36 but this is how the faction is built.
Anyway the best ATtank in game is the M10, Relic themselves knew it since they increased the cost while nobody was complaining on it.
USF Sherman 76mm gun upgrade?
3 Dec 2015, 11:15 AM
#47
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3 Dec 2015, 11:27 AM
#48
Posts: 345
What will be the difference with the EZ8 ?
I suppose the big difference is that is not doctrinal, if I got properly the idea of the OP.
anyway, do you think OKW don´t need a stock MG coz they have one in two doctrines????
An already muni starved faction (OKW) is now more muni starved and still can't build caches.
3 Dec 2015, 11:27 AM
#49
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give Rangers M14 with scope
Riflemen get 4x M16 upgrade
Change 50 cal to M60
And more sherman ? How about introduce m46 Patton. Axis already hogs all the experimental/rare weapons and vehicles as well as the best anti tank
Also add super bazooka
+1 maybe some b17 bombing run would be nice
3 Dec 2015, 11:38 AM
#50
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I'm all for US/Soviet gets a better non-doctrinal tank.
US gets a 76mm Sherman varaiant meanwhile soviet gets T-34/85
Meanwhile Axis enjoys panther/KT as stock unit for years.
This.
3 Dec 2015, 11:41 AM
#51
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Why you want 76mm gun? I mean, Sherman is cheaper than PzIV yet it aleady has better penetration.
3 Dec 2015, 11:49 AM
#52
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I suppose those who want that upgrade to 76mm want to get a better scalability for the sermhan m4, which once heavies start rolling into the field, sherman lose tons of utility coz a sherman can figth a p4 but is not a great tool againts a KT for example.
I think that´s the reason, not saying OP is right or wrong....
I think that´s the reason, not saying OP is right or wrong....
An already muni starved faction (OKW) is now more muni starved and still can't build caches.
3 Dec 2015, 11:58 AM
#53
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I suppose those who want that upgrade to 76mm want to get a better scalability for the sermhan m4, which once heavies start rolling into the field, sherman lose tons of utility coz a sherman can figth a p4 but is not a great tool againts a KT for example.
I think that´s the reason, not saying OP is right or wrong....
Just like Pz4 is not the best tool agasint IS2, T34/85 or E8
That's why Axis have JPIV or PzV while Allies have M36 or SU85.
3 Dec 2015, 12:02 PM
#55
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The Sherman in real life was superior to the panzer 4 in nearly every way.
What shermann type? Compared to what P4 type?
Because, if you compare an easy 8 with a panzer 4 ausf D for instance, of course it is superior.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
3 Dec 2015, 12:10 PM
#56
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i know this has been talked about before but i still think and champion that the M4A3 Sherman should have the option aside from having an armor upgrade to increase durability to include a 76mm gun upgrade (via MU or FU costs) to increase its offensive capability. with the way warspoils are working right now its very difficult or unpredictable to get the pershing or easy 8 commander and you may have to spend money to buy them which some people cannot afford it. so having this option available non-doctrinally in my opinion should provide a flexible response for those who dont have either of the two.
top is the 75mm variant: the default sherman for the USF medium armor
upgrade it to the 76mm gun and you get this
pershing is shit
sorry to tell you this
ez 8 is some how ok
usf need a buf !!!
3 Dec 2015, 12:14 PM
#57
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What shermann type? Compared to what P4 type?
Because, if you compare an easy 8 with a panzer 4 ausf D for instance, of course it is superior.
Any of the 10,000 76mm armed Shermans are better than any Panzer IV variant in every single way besides penetration with basic AP where the Sherman is at around 120mm and the P4 at around 130 (irl). But M93 HVAP shits all over PzGr 40 by a longshot.
But the Panzer IV Ausf.G/H are both of course better than your usual 75mm Sherman.
(Irl the M4A1 76w, M4A2 76w, M4A3 76w and the M4A3 76w HVSS (aka E8) are all roughly the same, the HVSS in the E8 version just stands for better suspension.)
3 Dec 2015, 12:17 PM
#58
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Greedy USF fanbois, you already got your Pershing and Calliope, but you want more.
ooooooooooooo thank you !!!
for a tank thet costs so much but acts like its a cheap shit
600 mp and 200 fuel = pershing \640 mp 230 fuel =tiger
tiger eats this tank with no salt
but ok usf tank is faster and soo....
ok so wuts about the panther ?
why panther thet costs less then the pershing but a panther still wins pershing
[both of them are tank hunters]
we have been told thet the pershing needed to help usf to deal with heavy armore late game ]
3 Dec 2015, 12:19 PM
#59
Posts: 345
Just like Pz4 is not the best tool agasint IS2, T34/85 or E8
That's why Axis have JPIV or PzV while Allies have M36 or SU85.
Can´t say you are wrong....seems fair.
so volks don´t deserve any AI upgrade as lot of people here wants because you have others AI tools? just asking.
An already muni starved faction (OKW) is now more muni starved and still can't build caches.
3 Dec 2015, 12:21 PM
#60
Posts: 168
lol and axis get the best AT weapons and armor that have more bang for their buck plus they are easy to use and easy to play. not allies they can be frustrating as fuck as well provide a huge mental migraine strain with all that micro...
i agree with you +1
aixe are for real ez to use
allwase see low [LVL] thet just started to play with 400 hours or less, playeing as aixe. how they got used to the game so fast how they got ranked up so fast on the leaderbourds ?
cos aixe need less micro
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