King Tiger

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 22:02 PMRMMLz

It's just not the best unit for 1s, deal with it. I know your frustration, both Axis factions are UP at them moment. This makes you seek a WildCard iWin Anti Everything tank to turn the tide and win the game after like 20 minutes of frustrating struggle against RifleDerps.

Point is, a supported KT (mostly in 2s+) is a beast. It really is. If OKW is overhauled/tweaked/buffed you would not need a better KT. Imagine if other units had better synergy with the current KT, what would happen then? So I think you want KT to be more powerful to compensate other flaws, which is not the way to balance OKW. OKW needs a total overhaul, and apparently relic is willing to do that.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 22:18 PMShowtaro

ISU152/IS2 envies the KT on the "wiping whole squads" department, that's where it shines.

I mean, it's a great infantry destroyer, perfect for defending VPs, if you want to fight Tank Destroyers (firefly, m36, su85) then you should build proper counters.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 19:55 PMSpaceHamster

No tank deserves passive self spotting in this game, not even tiger ace(even if it can with 3x sight bulletins).

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 23:10 PMsiuking666

remember SU85? (with super awesome pen and RoF and mobility)

and pre-nerfed ISU?

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 23:11 PMTatatala

And are they like it now? So your point is what exactly?

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 23:14 PMsiuking666

My fucking point is that SU85 can still self-spot, actually even seeing longer than its gun range.

ANd it is fucking like it now. Yes.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 23:14 PMsiuking666

My fucking point is that SU85 can still self-spot, actually even seeing longer than its gun range.

ANd it is fucking like it now. Yes.

"remember SU85? (with super awesome pen and RoF and mobility)"

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 23:22 PMTatatala

That's not what you wrote about in the post I quoted.

Here, I'll help you remember:

So the point of your original post was that it had no point, because what you were trying to relay from your head, to your keyboard, then onto us, had absolutely nothing to do with what you wrote. You also mentioned ISU for apparently no reason at all.

I can understand that this type of affliction can be very frustrating, but please try not to vent that frustration on me in future. Thanks.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 23:16 PMSpaceHamster

That comes with penalties on being slower, having a cone for a vision arc, and not being able to turn very well. And tracking costs munitions to use so it's fine for a T4 turretless TD unit.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2015, 00:10 AMsiuking666

I can't see the point of Tracking at all.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2015, 00:17 AMCookiezNcreem

Give KT 100 range, 640 damage because fighting jacksons,su85, and slow ass expensive firefly+tulip with a JP fucking 4 AKA the best TD in the fucking game that solos all of those at vet 0 is too much effort. Not to mention it al fucking ready out ranges most mediums and can reach out and slap a Jackson on most maps even with its paltry 45 range.

Give KT 1000 front Armor because TOP 3 highest armor value in the game is NOT ENOUGH ARMOR.

Also, make KT main gun have twice the AOE, and one shot squads and AT guns even more so than it does currently.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2015, 00:20 AMSpaceHamster

Tracking is given to all turretless soviet tanks, even ISU-152. For the same reason all medium and heavy tanks in the soviet arsenal have 'secure mode' for their vet 1 ability

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2015, 00:23 AMATCF

Please contain your excitement!

*Ahem* i think the 425 armor could make its return to King Tiger if Relic would increase its fuel cost to 300 (Original IS-2 cost 300 fuel and lost to a STUG in a 1vs1, back in 2013)since here is a video of 2 king tigers with 425 armor attacking the Soviet Base, there might be some RNG affecting the battle, but the increased fuel cost would solve the issue, enjoy!

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2015, 00:17 AMCookiezNcreem

Give KT 100 range, 640 damage because fighting jacksons,su85, and slow ass expensive firefly+tulip with a JP fucking 4 AKA the best TD in the fucking game that solos all of those at vet 0 is too much effort. Not to mention it al fucking ready out ranges most mediums and can reach out and slap a Jackson on most maps even with its paltry 45 range.

Give KT 1000 front Armor because TOP 3 highest armor value in the game is NOT ENOUGH ARMOR.

Also, make KT main gun have twice the AOE, and one shot squads and AT guns even more so than it does currently.