Does anyone else feel like this guy isn't strong enough for the cost? It constantly misses its HE round, and it's AP round has 200 pen at long range, which struggles against anything tougher than a panzer 4.
I know people hate getting gibbed from long range, so I wouldn't mind if the HE round had a higher dmg dropoff from its AOE splash if it meant buffing its accuracy. The AP round needs a flat-out penetration buff.
ISU-152 feels really weak
4 Nov 2015, 22:08 PM
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4 Nov 2015, 22:22 PM
#2
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Yup, for 230 fuel, it struggles to pen a panther.
4 Nov 2015, 22:29 PM
#3
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Agreed, isu is suffering now, especially against german armor.At late game its generally infantry counter, penetration is too low.
4 Nov 2015, 22:30 PM
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The ISU is in one state: Unreliable. The penetration is just too low for a heavy tank destroyer with such a high reload and aim time. The HE shell seems to be even worse. It either hits nothing (uneven terrain being its biggest foe, argh!), kills 1 model or wipes a squad instantly.
The AP rounds needs a penetration buff while the HE round should be similiar to the shell of a Bulldozer or Brummbär.
The AP rounds needs a penetration buff while the HE round should be similiar to the shell of a Bulldozer or Brummbär.
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4 Nov 2015, 22:41 PM
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L2P...it's a beast with Con support and ATGs.
Then give HE rounds to Ele and JT if you want your ISU-152 to counter everything.
Then give HE rounds to Ele and JT if you want your ISU-152 to counter everything.
4 Nov 2015, 22:47 PM
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I agree it needs a penetration buff.ISU-152 should have no problems in that regard.Accuracy can be increased a bit too.
4 Nov 2015, 23:08 PM
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The fuck is this bullshit?
ISU has 70 Range, 240 penetration, the best long range AT destroyer Allies has.
HE shell has a huge blast radius and can one shot squads from 70 range Fog of War.
It is fine right now, unless you want that OP as fuck, Anti-everything, rain death from afar, self-spotting ISU back.
ISU has 70 Range, 240 penetration, the best long range AT destroyer Allies has.
HE shell has a huge blast radius and can one shot squads from 70 range Fog of War.
It is fine right now, unless you want that OP as fuck, Anti-everything, rain death from afar, self-spotting ISU back.
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4 Nov 2015, 23:15 PM
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Is this real life?
4 Nov 2015, 23:24 PM
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ISU is fine. And remember it isn't heavy tank destroyer like Elefant but Heavy Assault Gun created to be universal on battlefield and I think, it is doing his job very well.
5 Nov 2015, 01:54 AM
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It doesn't do anything "very well"
It's got the same accuracy problems the IS-2 has, it seriously feels like it has a 30% chance to hit. The dshk on top feels more deadly at times.
It's got the same accuracy problems the IS-2 has, it seriously feels like it has a 30% chance to hit. The dshk on top feels more deadly at times.
5 Nov 2015, 01:59 AM
#11
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Agreed it needs a pen buff its penetration is awful considering its atrocious reload time.
5 Nov 2015, 02:34 AM
#12
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then jadtiger needs buff then too
5 Nov 2015, 02:42 AM
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then jadtiger needs buff then toothe jagtiger insta pens any tank in the game from across the map.
5 Nov 2015, 03:48 AM
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the jagtiger insta pens any tank in the game from across the map.
whos talking about pen m talking about other buffs like removing the stupid stun mechanic...its fucking frustating on at only ans such a expensive tank
5 Nov 2015, 07:15 AM
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The biggest problem with it is the rounds hitting the ground, most noticeable on Angoville and Langres. They just won't hit infantry at max range. 200 pen at max range is not exactly great either, considering that you need to screen its flanks with AT. Right now it just doesn't feel like it is worth it. I'd trade off the ridiculous RNG wipes for some reliability at range and a pen buff.
5 Nov 2015, 08:14 AM
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Lets not forget that the vet 1 ability, which is supposed to pass through shot blockers, also suffers from terrian collision. This often makes it a complete waste of 70 muni.
Since the ISU lost the ability to self spot, it has become a unit that is difficult to justify considering its cost and the baby sitting it needs.
It shouldn't be a wipe machine but it shouldn't be so unreliable either.
Since the ISU lost the ability to self spot, it has become a unit that is difficult to justify considering its cost and the baby sitting it needs.
It shouldn't be a wipe machine but it shouldn't be so unreliable either.
Please bear in mind that I only play team game modes.
5 Nov 2015, 08:16 AM
#17
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Its too costly not to pen heavies.So definitely deserves that much at least.
5 Nov 2015, 08:39 AM
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the jagtiger insta pens any tank in the game from across the map.
And from 80 range. Nothing the allies have can touch it safely.
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5 Nov 2015, 08:41 AM
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the jagtiger insta pens any tank in the game from across the map.
Except another JagdTiger
5 Nov 2015, 09:01 AM
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Except another JagdTiger
Actually, JT is the only unit in game that can deflect JT shell.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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