Yay. Axis team game is hopeless now.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 10:16 AMausterlitz

So the essence of ur post is - L2P.
Say that to the abbysymal win rates,given that top 150 players are counted i guess its L2P for them all.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 10:28 AMEsxile

Yes it is, I'm also part of the top150 2vs2 with USF, and top 50 in 4vs4 so I know well what people I'm facing are doing in those modes.

After a month of abusing ISG spam to win, many OKW players are just going back to their real rank position. But building Obers and combining and microing them with Volks and sturms? Too hard, if it doesn't work in a blob that requires too much micro!

Majority of Ostheer players can't do anything else than gren spam or ostruppen spam or pzgren spam, same at top150 2vs2 or top50 4vs4. Mixing them, using their combined force? noooo too hard!!! too much micro skill requirement.

Ostheer is probably the faction providing the most variety but you never see it in game. There is always the need of spamming one unit and whining in the fora if this unit isn't enough OP.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 10:28 AMEsxile

Yes it is, I'm also part of the top150 2vs2 with USF, and top 50 in 4vs4 so I know well what people I'm facing are doing in those modes.

After a month of abusing ISG spam to win, many OKW players are just going back to their real rank position. But building Obers and combining and microing them with Volks and sturms? Too hard, if it doesn't work in a blob that requires too much micro!

Majority of Ostheer players can't do anything else than gren spam or ostruppen spam or pzgren spam, same at top150 2vs2 or top50 4vs4. Mixing them, using their combined force? noooo too hard!!! too much micro skill requirement.

Ostheer is probably the faction providing the most variety but you never see it in game. There is always the need of spamming one unit and whining in the fora if this unit isn't enough OP.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 10:22 AMsiuking666

Funny how those noob scrubs always tell people to l2p,
when people who have a decent rank clearly say that it is in a very bad balance state.

and they dont even dare to show their pathetic playercard.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 10:44 AMAchtAchter

If its so easy to win with OKW & OST in 2vs2 then please go ahead, get a TOP place after playing 10 games with those factions in that mode, since you haven't done that yet, because this thread is about 2vs2 balance. Nobody cares for 4vs4 ranks as they are easy to achieve.

OKW/Ostheer winrates were in the same state before the ISG nerf on top, its not like the plummet, they stay they way they were/are.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 10:01 AMAchtAchter

at Aladdin:

You don't seem to know the stats of an M10 and never seem to use it as it has no problem beating P4s, while crushing inf extending it's role to an AI unit.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 09:10 AMsiuking666

Seriously, can I copy and paste this on my post?

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 12:01 PMAladdin

You don't seem to know one is a tank destroyer, while the other one is not. I don't understand how/why you insist to compare them while they are different type of units with different range/etc,


Alright man, you are telling that m10 beats P4, of course it depends on how they engage. m10 is a tank destroyer while p4 is a generalist tank.

Same story goes to Stug G, vs for ex Sherman or even Ez8s. Stug is a tank destroyer with a longer range and capable of beating those units if you micro them well.

I don't get it why you try to discuss that with me.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 00:43 AMAchtAchter

Always funny to see when your P4 loses a 1vs1 vs a M10 that costs 80 fuel.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 12:23 PMPorygon

Sir, your logic is as excellent as your Disney avatar.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 00:09 AMButcher

Totally agreed! I actually thought about making a thread about that too. From a 2vs2 perspective Germans are not playable any longer. The player search rate has gone up to a solid 75% Allies. Pretty good indicator for what is going on right now.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 12:26 PMchipwreckt

RLY? M10 is a TANKDESTROYER. Its designed to destroy TANKs. P4 is a TANK. And you want the TANK to win? Only because its more expensive? Its like saying water should not counter fire because fire is harder to get?

Strategist?

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 02:32 AMCarlos Danger

The biggest issue is that Allies have all the initiative until you get T3 out, at which point you're on approximately equal footing. Except that you're behind in resources and VPs.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 12:41 PMAchtAchter

Without that crush feature I would agree with both of you.

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 11:56 AMEsxile

The thread is about Axis team game, and there isn't such a big difference between 2vs2 and 4vs4 since majority of 4vs4 map are designed as 2vs2+2vs2.
If it was so easy to play Allied and Axis so Hopeless, Top 200 2vs2 and above would be fully filled with negative streaks which isn't the case.