Oct Balance Preview Patch Notes Gathered WIP

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2015, 16:09 PMdaspoulos

I'm gonna guarantee nobody is going to build these things. Just imo. With every post I LOL at the fact that lelic won't just change them back to pre super ninja buff state where nobody had issues with them, and in fact even thought pak howitzer was UP. But that would require admitting failure, so we get this shitty nerf.

Maybe we should make mortars and mortar pits have the same artificial micro too? I mean its only fair. Why should one artillery unit be gimped but not the other? Sure it doesn't have suppression, but its also 1/3rd cheaper and comes one tier earlier.

Projectile lowest angel increased from 10 to 40

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2015, 16:09 PMdaspoulos

I'm gonna guarantee nobody is going to build these things. Just imo. With every post I LOL at the fact that lelic won't just change them back to pre super ninja buff state where nobody had issues with them, and in fact even thought pak howitzer was UP. But that would require admitting failure, so we get this shitty nerf.

Maybe we should make mortars and mortar pits have the same artificial micro too? I mean its only fair. Why should one artillery unit be gimped but not the other? Sure it doesn't have suppression, but its also 1/3rd cheaper and comes one tier earlier.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2015, 16:40 PMRetaliation

Nobody had issues with them pre brits? They were awful. With the pack you could barrage a MG and it could just stand there and without a care in the world. What's the point of spending near 400 manpower on an artillery piece if it can't reliably break a defensive line?

The pack and ISG are basically ZIS guns that have barrage as their default fire, so they should be microed like one.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 23:07 PMhannibalbarcajr

Thank you relic for coming on and posting on the forums. I can only speak for myself but the more you come on and engage the Fanbase and provide balance/patching support the more likely I am to purchase new DLC. Compare this to Rome total war two which was so terrible for so long that I did not buy any expansions or DLC and have dropped that franchise from my future purchases list. And I had bought every title and every expansion From the very first Shogun. Keep up the good work and please keep engaging the community on new content, balancing and tournament play.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 19:11 PMIron Emperor

No auto face is like let mortars only fire in a 45 degree angle.

Jump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 02:38 AMmycalliope

why did they increased armor on churchill again..?? it now deflects shot now i have to invest too much in at like barton vs romeo.?? if you want 240 armor decrease the health or 200 armor or 1400 health(which i like).

Jump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 02:38 AMmycalliope

why did they increased armor on churchill again..?? it now deflects shot now i have to invest too much in at like barton vs romeo.?? if you want 240 armor decrease the health or 200 armor or 1400 health(which i like).

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2015, 18:05 PMB0omhauer

Well said! I also want to appreciate the input from Relic personnel - keep it up!

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 19:06 PMbC_

We'll have to see how hard it actually is to use and evaluate it further. Facing the direction you want to shoot which is familiar functionality if you look at all units with UI arc anyways.

Jump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 04:27 AMFiresparks

because it takes more than just hp to make a good meatshield? 1400 basically allow the churchill to take one more penetrating round than the King tiger.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2015, 16:20 PMTaurusBully

You cant compare to mortar because leig has way more acuracy and you cant compare to mgs because leig has way more range.

But i agree with you on indirect fire as a whole, imo should require more micro.

Jump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 14:38 PMSjakie Terreur

Maybe we should make mortars and mortar pits have the same artificial micro too? I mean its only fair. Why should one artillery unit be gimped but not the other? Sure it doesn't have suppression, but its also 1/3rd cheaper and comes one tier earlier.

Maybe remove mortar autofire and remove the cool down from the barrage even if you stop the barrage.

Jump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 05:34 AMmycalliope

you people giving examples of kt and what not...?? do know that churchills are cheap...?? right..??

Jump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 15:20 PMKatitof

Mortars don't have cone of fire like MGs, ATGs and howis.

Mortars also aren't one of the most overpowered unit in game at the moment.

Why should one get nerfed while other not?

Because one is gardening overpowered beyond belief while other is fine.

Your zealous defense of this unit only proves how much you rely on single overpowered unit to win.

Jump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 15:20 PMKatitof

Mortars don't have cone of fire like MGs, ATGs and howis.

Mortars also aren't one of the most overpowered unit in game at the moment.

Why should one get nerfed while other not?

Because one is gardening overpowered beyond belief while other is fine.

Your zealous defense of this unit only proves how much you rely on single overpowered unit to win.