Next patch sneak peak by Relic

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 22:34 PMAlexzandvar

I don't care how long it takes to get a patch released, I just want them to thoroughly internally test it.

They need to get rid of the Patch Mod system and go to a PTR system that MMO's like WoW and EVE online have. That way players don't need to spend nearly as much effort in order to find matches. Simply offer an option on the main menu to switch to "Beta mode" which gives you an overview of the upcoming patch changes and allows for auto matching with other beta testers.

They also need a more robust bug finding system, they shouldn't need to rely on 2-3 players in the entire community to find things. Me and Cruzz shouldn't know more about the internal game mechanics than the people developing the game.

Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2015, 23:34 PMpugzii

'Me and Cruzz' lmfao chill out bro, your nothing like Cruzz.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2015, 22:49 PMKreatiir

Players will gradually leave because the gaming undustry is giving them too many options.

Jump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 08:17 AMTrubbbel

What options? This is the best RTS there is.

The "oh this game is dying"

Jump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 08:35 AMHat

I've seen people leave for men of war over balancing issues

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2015, 19:07 PMnigo

source: relic stream

War spoils fix never.

Jump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 09:08 AMNuclear Arbitor

there doesn't have to be another RTS for people to go play. at this point i only play coh2 with friends and spend the rest of my time on other games. i wish there was a good RTS option right now but i don't really like any of the available ones for one reason or another.

Jump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 09:41 AMAustralian Magic

RTS games are dead.
There are games (game) like SC which are, at least for me, very boring.
There are games like Blitzkrieg/CoH which keep playerbase not becasue they are awesome but because they are about WW2.
I took a break form CoH2 and switched to other games but not RTS becasue there are none.

But when I look back, my god...
Cossacks 1, Battle for Middle earth, Warlord Battlecry III, Age of Empires.
Damn awesome RTS.
Yet currently, 15 years after Cossacks 1, we don't have ANY rts which would be so huge and complicated like cossakcs 1.

Jump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 08:17 AMTrubbbel

What options? This is the best RTS there is.

The "oh this game is dying" we have heard since release. Keep that up for long enough and eventually (whenever that is, it hasn't happened to CoH1 yet) you get to say "see, now it's dead! I was right!".

Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2015, 14:05 PMPedro_Jedi

Dat meme though

*cringe*

Jump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 09:41 AMAustralian Magic

RTS games are dead.
There are games (game) like SC which are, at least for me, very boring.
There are games like Blitzkrieg/CoH which keep playerbase not becasue they are awesome but because they are about WW2.
I took a break form CoH2 and switched to other games but not RTS becasue there are none.

But when I look back, my god...
Cossacks 1, Battle for Middle earth, Warlord Battlecry III, Age of Empires.
Damn awesome RTS.
Yet currently, 15 years after Cossacks 1, we don't have ANY rts which would be so huge and complicated like cossakcs 1.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2015, 23:11 PMSturmtigerCobra

Ok name at least two currently active RTS games (not Command & Conquer clones) that is a "higher quality game" than COH2.

Let's try to be more fair here. When it comes to RTS, Blizzard are just C&C copycats and I think Relic deserve abit more credit as pioneers in RTS along with Creative Assembly with the Total War series.

IIRC, Blizzard Entertainment have been publishing their own games for many years. Relic Entertainment had to work with at least 4 different publisher with one going bankrupt.

To name a few;
Homeworld 1 + 2, Sierra Entertainment
Impossible Creatures, Microsoft
Dawn of War, THQ
COH, THQ
COH2, SEGA

CA & Relic are both pioneers in RTS that have been living in the shadow of Starcraft and others C&C copycats for more than a decade. Yes Blizzard currently make good MMO/MOBA games.
But when it comes to RTS, they cant continue to just milk money from classic C&C RTS which are a dying game genre on PC.

In South Korea, SC1 eSport & community helped alot to build up "hype" for SC2's popularity in the EU/US.
Now the SC2 hype are dieing in South Korea, Blizzard RTS will die slowly with it.
Many players are moving to MOBA/MMO games and Bllizard are moving with games such as Overwatch (team based FPS) and Hearthstone + Heroes of the storm. Bllizard are just not going to take the risk with innovative RTS like Relic and Creative Assembly or to create a MMO RTS.
It's getting pretty obvious for potential eSport sponsors that Blizzard are abandoning RTS for MOBA/MMO games. So that eventual will mean less money for SC2 tournaments. For CA/Relic that mean if they polish their RTS franchise (console + pc) they can get more attention from eSport sponsors that want to focus on innovative RTS that can potentially take over from SC2.

Mobile casual RTS games (Game of War + Clash of Clans) are more popular than ever and casual gamers are the fastest growing community in the gaming industry. Console/mobile RTS = Casual gamer, PC RTS = less casual and more hardcore RTS.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/03/the-shocking-truth-about-mobile-gaming.html


Compared to most COH2 players I am an relative old RTS/MMO gamer. I played Homeworld 1 in the top10 ladder and was also a top player/visionary leader in a very complex MMO game (EvE Online).
HW1 released 1 year after SC1 and was light years ahead of Blizzard in innovation.
With Homeworld, Dawn of War and COH, Relic have made at least 3 innovative RTS games that are not C&C clones.

So stop with the naysaying. Either believe in COH2 (or COH3/DoW3) and help make history. Or go back to C&C clone games and have fun with that dieing era. Your choice.

Jump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 11:21 AMRMMLz

True. And the reasons are quite simple. RTS is exclusive to PC, and not many people like to play hard-to-master- RTS games. Add some RNG and you have something appealing to a small proportion of gamers.

RTS games are also not very easy to design. You can spew out CoD bad BF games left and right.

Someone mentioned Golden Age of RTS, I'm gonna go one step forward and say Golden Age of PC gaming. Steam saved us, but are far from those days.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 07:31 AMHighfiveeeee

+1

In addition players today are not willing to learn a game for more than 5 minutes.
CoD - You look around, you shoot, you throw grenades - That's it.
CoH2 - Learn 5 different factions, counters, soft counters, commanders, and so on... - weeks to months

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 08:24 AMSmoky82

I can not agree with Steam saved us.
COH 1 was very good as this Game not Steam Version.
I have Tears in my Eyes if i think about this Golden Age of Quazal Server, Smurf Accounts, and Stats, Ranks,Leaderboards ingame.
Now Coh1 is dead because Steam and Coh2 dont be that good to stay (DLC, War Spoils, no Ranks,Chat,ingame Leaderboards, Balance)

My Opinion is Steam ruined this Franchise

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 08:24 AMSmoky82

I can not agree with Steam saved us.
COH 1 was very good as this Game not Steam Version.
I have Tears in my Eyes if i think about this Golden Age of Quazal Server, Smurf Accounts, and Stats, Ranks,Leaderboards ingame.
Now Coh1 is dead because Steam and Coh2 dont be that good to stay (DLC, War Spoils, no Ranks,Chat,ingame Leaderboards, Balance)

My Opinion is Steam ruined this Franchise