What is the most game breaking doctorine?
3 Oct 2015, 07:37 AM
#1
Posts: 143
It all comes down to doctrines when playing this game and less about micro or strategy. So far, the shock frontline seems to be the most used and / abused doc, offering abilities against every unit which are supposed to counter its broken Call-Ins. Though it is understandable as the SU stock units are average (ie not OP) so it is the best decision to go with it. Examples ('top' 100 players) :
3 Oct 2015, 08:03 AM
#2
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Anything with IS2 and/or KV8 will be taken for Soviets.
3 Oct 2015, 08:05 AM
#3
Posts: 1248
Brits: If it has commandos it'll be taken. And if it has Commandos and a glider that increases resource income. hell yeah
3 Oct 2015, 08:07 AM
#4
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OKW = any doctrine so people go for MG34e mainly cause its nice to have a suppression unit.
3 Oct 2015, 08:24 AM
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Vanguard, and it's not even close. Arguably the most game breaking commander since the initial Tiger Ace.
3 Oct 2015, 08:29 AM
#6
Posts: 334
Vanguard? Really? At least the Croc actually costs fuel. The Tiger Ace on the other hand can turn a game around with zero fuel cost and a-move shenanigans, even without TWP.
3 Oct 2015, 11:28 AM
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Easy8 Company wtf is that? 
Rifleman with flamethrowers is kinda gamebreaking (especially on urban maps)
They should also remove the free retreat point on the Vanguard Glider though.
Rifleman with flamethrowers is kinda gamebreaking (especially on urban maps)
They should also remove the free retreat point on the Vanguard Glider though.
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3 Oct 2015, 11:31 AM
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Permanently BannedVanguard 
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.
It feels handicapped from the start
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It feels handicapped from the start
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3 Oct 2015, 12:12 PM
#9
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OSTHEER = CAS = SHIT!
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3 Oct 2015, 12:20 PM
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erm, i dont think any doctrine is game breaking now
3 Oct 2015, 12:36 PM
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Easy8 Company wtf is that?
Rifleman with flamethrowers is kinda gamebreaking (especially on urban maps)
They should also remove the free retreat point on the Vanguard Glider though.
add pack howi on top of that. and suddenly usf dont need t0 mortar
this last patch is just 
ketetof shudnt b allaud tew tawlk abowt balence hee s biasd
3 Oct 2015, 12:52 PM
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what about CAS instead of elite troops. CAS is way harder to deal with then elite troops in my opinion
3 Oct 2015, 12:56 PM
#13
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Vanguard
When you have commandos (which are okay, borderline, but okay), Tempest raids (even better than the Ami P-47 vehicle strike) and Crocs (no debate) in the same commander:
You know its broken.
When you have commandos (which are okay, borderline, but okay), Tempest raids (even better than the Ami P-47 vehicle strike) and Crocs (no debate) in the same commander:
You know its broken.
Had fun doing this earlier
3 Oct 2015, 14:11 PM
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vanguard. everything in that commander kills you.
3 Oct 2015, 15:28 PM
#15
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CAS, Vanguard, Elite Troops, and MA.
The Fascisti Will Pay.
3 Oct 2015, 15:33 PM
#16
Posts: 143
YAS, OSt and Brits have the most broken docs. And those screencaps are meaningless nonsense.
Seriously relic should stop considering community feedback when making balance decisions.
And those screencaps are meaningless nonsense.Seriously relic should stop considering community feedback when making balance decisions.
3 Oct 2015, 17:29 PM
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Makes a poll > doesn't like the result. Don't ask if you don't like to be answered.
Try harder next time, instead of posting 2 times the "same" pic (15s difference).
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Vanguard*1 >>> Rifle*2 >= Elite*3/ShockRifle*4/Whatever meta commander
*1: not much to say.
*2: the whole combo. Vet1 Rifles in combination with flamers (flames are really on the strong side of the balance nowadays) to finish it off with all-around E8. I forgot WP also.
*3: Some may not like the vet ability, but is balanced. The TA is always gonna be controversial. At least no more triple tap (TWP). Design wise is strange, since it rewards making lots of damage, been aggressive to make equivalent the mp drain and losing it eventually.
*4: More like KV8 is good nowadays cause flames are REALLY good ATM.
3/4/Meta commanders are mostly balanced or at least fair.
Try harder next time, instead of posting 2 times the "same" pic (15s difference).
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Vanguard*1 >>> Rifle*2 >= Elite*3/ShockRifle*4/Whatever meta commander
*1: not much to say.
*2: the whole combo. Vet1 Rifles in combination with flamers (flames are really on the strong side of the balance nowadays) to finish it off with all-around E8. I forgot WP also.
*3: Some may not like the vet ability, but is balanced. The TA is always gonna be controversial. At least no more triple tap (TWP). Design wise is strange, since it rewards making lots of damage, been aggressive to make equivalent the mp drain and losing it eventually.
*4: More like KV8 is good nowadays cause flames are REALLY good ATM.
3/4/Meta commanders are mostly balanced or at least fair.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
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And if it is, you only care about winning.
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3 Oct 2015, 17:54 PM
#18
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I think that while some units in these doctrines may be explicitly OP and need to be nerfed, all doctrines should try to come up to their level.
Having 4-5 useful abilities that can affect the games outcome is something these doctrines and few others can say which is dumb since thats what a doctrine should aspire to. Why would i pick recon for abilities that aren't even worth their cost and therefore can't hope to compete with rifle company abilities that can signifigantly contribute to a win.
Having 4-5 useful abilities that can affect the games outcome is something these doctrines and few others can say which is dumb since thats what a doctrine should aspire to. Why would i pick recon for abilities that aren't even worth their cost and therefore can't hope to compete with rifle company abilities that can signifigantly contribute to a win.
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3 Oct 2015, 18:08 PM
#19
Posts: 1248
Crocodile needs a nerf not a whole doctrine. Relic needs to make Conversion give less muni but cost less fuel as well along with a longer cooldown.
3 Oct 2015, 18:12 PM
#20
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Relic balance doctrine.
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