Matchmaking bullshit vs Jove

Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2015, 06:06 AMAngryKitten465

So they only beat me because they know the map better, not because they are you know, 500+ ranks higher than I am?

Sounds legit

Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2015, 07:20 AMPaRaNo1a

With you attitude I doubt you will become better no matter who you play.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2015, 20:26 PM__deleted__

Hi there,

Just found out the Jove I played in automatch was the actual rank 3 Brit player Jove. Now I wouldn't mind playing Jove if I wasn't rank 795 as Ostheer.

How did this even happen? I mean how is this fair?



Edit: rank 796 Kappa, thanks Relic.

Jump back to quoted post2 Oct 2015, 11:57 AMXucphra

The people making the argument that it's somehow a great honor or some wonderful learning experience are missing the point. It's fundamentally a failure of the matchmaking system to have such a significant imbalance between player skill levels.

Can anything be done about it? No. So it would indeed be wise to try and make the best of it. All I'm saying is A.Schwarzenschnitzel has a valid point.

Jump back to quoted post2 Oct 2015, 06:50 AMBananenheld

you are top200 or so , u get matched vs top 10 even if ur rank 1500 or 2000. and there is such a big skill gap that both parties wont learn anything from eachother. if that would be the case, every matchmaker in every game would match noobs vs pros. im pretty sure thats why they invented ELO systems, to create fair matchups.

Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2015, 17:55 PMXucphra

. Automatch is supposed to pit you in a fair 50/50 match up in an ideal world. It is NOT unreasonable to be upset that this cannot be done all the time, even if you acknowledge that fact that it is impossible.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2015, 05:35 AMKeaper!

Not quite accurate. Automatch aims to keep players winrate around a mean based on elo, so it actively tries to bring you to 50% with the intent of assigning you the most accurate possible elo number. If you go on a win streak for instance the system will match you against tougher opponents until you "even out" and regress to what it thinks is your skill level. In theory that means the vast majority of the player base should stick just below a 50% winrate, while the very top players are the only ones able to reach 60%+ winrate levels. Unfortunately in practice coh2's player base is not large enough to support a truly representative system so you see top players with 80+% win rates and mediocre players being matched against the very top by default/process of elimination.

Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2015, 17:26 PMDullahan

As with any system, you need enough players distributed across a wide variety of skill levels to work properly.

Although there's a reason the top dozen or so people have inflated win rates. They play a lot of games, and so a large chunk of them are off peak hours where they get easy wins like this.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2015, 09:39 AMSgtBulldog

Yes, the time where you play also matters. If you have the opportunity to play when most of America is off-line, your winning chances are much better because competition is lower.

No disparagement of any particular other countries is intended, but that's how it is in my experience. And I played in vCOH too.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2015, 10:00 AMBananenheld

isnt it the other way around? i always THOUGHT that most top players are european(+ some koreans here and there). didnt know most good players come from america, didnt expect that.

Jump back to quoted post2 Oct 2015, 17:47 PMCookiezNcreem

I think it's an attitude issue.

If you're a true competitor, you see that match against Jove as an opportunity to test yourself.

Yes, the first time you see someone like jove,you'll probably lose in 10 minutes.Try to lose in 15 the next time, then 25, then take him to a 40 minute slugfest until finally you start beating him.

That's how it works. That's how getting better works.

It's like any other competitive sport or activity. You climb the ladder. Till you're the best. You get fucked by the best, until you become one of them.

You really shouldn't stay below rank 500 if you have the proper attitude and desire to improve....And honestly even that isn't hard just practice decent habits till its second nature..

. If you have no desire to do that, then There's something wrong with your competitive side. I suggest not playing 1v1, which is a competitive mode.

And seriously, losing to Jove won't make you instantly contract cancer and make your computer explode... At worse you'll lose a few ladder points.. Seriously just have fun with it.