Air Supremacy

| | | | | | | aircraft_squad_name: "tactical_bombers";
| | | | | | | attack_info: {
| | | | | | | | attack_sway_frequency: 1f;
| | | | | | | | attack_sway_width: 1f;
| | | | | | | | attacks_per_aircraft: 1;
| | | | | | | | delay_between_attack: 1f;
| | | | | | | | initial_attack_delay: 0f;
| | | | | | | | target_attack_distance: 100f;
| | | | | | | | target_attack_time_sec: 2.125f;
| | | | | | | | target_lead_in_distance: 40f;
| | | | | | | | target_lead_out_distance: 40f;
| | | | | | | };
| | | | | | | loiter_info: {
| | | | | | | | 0x200C8104: 0f;
| | | | | | | | 0x5543314C: true;
| | | | | | | | 0x6651A0F5: false;
| | | | | | | | 0xB01F66E7: 0f;
| | | | | | | | follow_target: false;
| | | | | | | | loiter_area_radius: 50f;
| | | | | | | | loiter_time_sec: 0f;
| | | | | | | };
| | | | | | | number_aircraft: 3;
| | | | | | | random_direction: false;
| | | | | | | search_attack_target: false;
| | | | | | | source_offset_x: 1f;
| | | | | | | source_offset_y: 1f;
| | | | | | | source_offset_z: 1f;
| | | | | | | target_info: {
| | | | | | | | $REF: "type_ability_target_type\is_position.lua";
| | | | | | | };
| | | | | | | time_range_between_planes_maximum: 1f;
| | | | | | | time_range_between_planes_minimum: 1f;
| | | | | | | use_long_path: false;

| | | | | | | | | aircraft_squad_name: "tactical_bombers_accurate";
| | | | | | | | | attack_info: {
| | | | | | | | | | attack_sway_frequency: 1f;
| | | | | | | | | | attack_sway_width: 1f;
| | | | | | | | | | attacks_per_aircraft: 1;
| | | | | | | | | | delay_between_attack: 1f;
| | | | | | | | | | initial_attack_delay: 0f;
| | | | | | | | | | target_attack_distance: 100f;
| | | | | | | | | | target_attack_time_sec: 2.125f;
| | | | | | | | | | target_lead_in_distance: 40f;
| | | | | | | | | | target_lead_out_distance: 40f;
| | | | | | | | | };
| | | | | | | | | loiter_info: {
| | | | | | | | | | 0x200C8104: 0f;
| | | | | | | | | | 0x5543314C: true;
| | | | | | | | | | 0x6651A0F5: false;
| | | | | | | | | | 0xB01F66E7: 0f;
| | | | | | | | | | follow_target: false;
| | | | | | | | | | loiter_area_radius: 50f;
| | | | | | | | | | loiter_time_sec: 0f;
| | | | | | | | | };
| | | | | | | | | number_aircraft: 2;
| | | | | | | | | random_direction: false;
| | | | | | | | | search_attack_target: false;
| | | | | | | | | source_offset_x: 2f;
| | | | | | | | | source_offset_y: 2f;
| | | | | | | | | source_offset_z: 2f;
| | | | | | | | | target_info: {
| | | | | | | | | | $REF: "type_ability_target_type\is_position.lua";
| | | | | | | | | };
| | | | | | | | | time_range_between_planes_maximum: 1f;
| | | | | | | | | time_range_between_planes_minimum: 1f;
| | | | | | | | | use_long_path: false;

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 20:27 PMAlexzandvar

Words

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 20:53 PMdasheepeh

it costs a whopping 325 munitions, it really needs to do something

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 20:58 PMAlexzandvar

2 IL-2 bomb strikes cost 400 munitions, this ability gives you 2 even more powerful IL-2 bomb strikes as well as 3 more large spread bomb strikes. Even Scavenge at max munitions (700) does 6400 damage which is only 400 more than the Air Supremacy call in does while requiring more than twice as much munitions.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 21:08 PMdasheepeh

i personally find it really easy to dodge, i didnt have any issues with it yet

a quick il2 bomb run with the plane positioned right can hurt you way more in many situations

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 21:17 PMAlexzandvar

Being able to blow up every truck or half the buildings in your base sector is somewhat problematic. But this thread or more to see weather Relic intended it to be so powerful. I assume they didn't because they just copy pasted an old ability.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 20:27 PMAlexzandvar

It appears Relic reused the old Urban Assault bombing ability without changing it and I think it's resulting in the ability being more powerful than intended. Also it seems to use HE111's instead of Lancasters.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 21:53 PMRobbie_Rotten

I really don't care about them having HE111 models because it doesn't matter. I mean, the Fallschirmjaeger drop out of a stuka...

The point is the ability is so stupid, along with any kind of kill everything alpha strike/ability that the brits have.

The game was fun when it was a challenge to kill stuff...now its just. Lets rush these crazy op units.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 22:04 PMOmega_Warrior

I think we all agree it shouldn't kill the OKW buildings outright. But at that cost and delay, it deserves to kill everything else that stupid enough to stay within it's AoE.

Neither OKW base building or UKF emplacements should be killable by a single strike, period.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 22:18 PMA Cuddly Teddy Bear

Like someone already stated, pathing and cramped maps can make this ability way to effective. Should be nerfed. There is a reason they took it out at first for Axis.

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 00:52 AMOmega_Warrior

15 seconds is plenty of time to get anything that isn't a crippled heavy tank out of it's AOE. No map or pathing is that bad. It is meant to be the most powerful and expensive call in ability. There is no justification of any unit being able to sit in it's AoE and tank the damage.