Volks panzerschreck cost
20 Sep 2015, 18:37 PM
#21
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It would be a nerf to Volks to keep them in the current state tbh, they exist to throw a grenade. Now that MG's are very powerful using them as your AT is silly and the high cost of the Shrek means getting a lot of them prevents you from having snares and grenades.
20 Sep 2015, 18:41 PM
#22
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thats basically what i mean, i always speak for automatch anyway
Oh, ok. It seemed like you were thinking that cold immunity got removed from the shreck upgrade.
That's how I understood your post. Nvm then.
20 Sep 2015, 19:22 PM
#23
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As much as you'd like shreckspam to come back, it won't, manage your munis like all other armies.
Shreck spam was here to stay since OKW was launched. I equip 2 shreck cost reduction bulletins and I spam shrecks like hell, no problem. And now, that volks have incendiary grenade too, I have even more amo, because I use the grenade just for stationary units and emplacements, as it should be used.
Shreck spam, shreck spam. What's the big deal with shreck spam? It is counterable and it's not the best OKW can do these days. Shreck spam is nothing compared to what USF and soviets can spam at the moment. Hell, even lmg grenadiers spam is more worthy.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
20 Sep 2015, 19:33 PM
#24
Posts: 1891
I like Shrek spam, it provides food for my hungry HMCs and Riflemen.
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20 Sep 2015, 19:38 PM
#25
Posts: 521
No thats too OP
20 Sep 2015, 23:23 PM
#26
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This thread is pointless. Did you not buy shreks on summer maps because the cold immunity was worthless there?
Oh you did?
Then it doesn't matter.
Oh you did?
Then it doesn't matter.
21 Sep 2015, 07:37 AM
#27
Posts: 353
Blob counter in the moment
USF pack howi after buff can easy suppression it
Sov Quad .50?
UKF If Volk Blob can atk Bofos 40 mm by not lose squad or Commando with Sten (minigun)
ps. Core unit like Riflemen and Con Vet 3 Rec acc buff it can help fight to volk blob ?
USF pack howi after buff can easy suppression it
Sov Quad .50?
UKF If Volk Blob can atk Bofos 40 mm by not lose squad or Commando with Sten (minigun)
ps. Core unit like Riflemen and Con Vet 3 Rec acc buff it can help fight to volk blob ?
21 Sep 2015, 11:36 AM
#28
Posts: 134
This thread is pointless. Did you not buy shreks on summer maps because the cold immunity was worthless there?
Oh you did?
Then it doesn't matter.
you dont get it,
for comparison it would be like playing extra for an lmg (usf 30 cal) to have a passive abbility (supressinon) witch you can use, lets say, on 2 or 3 maps. and now you cant use that abiltiy at all so whats the point of the higer price of that lmg? is sould be 60 muni again right? since its doctrinal and lmg42 is a bit better witch cots the same.
yet still you as an usf player are not forced to use the lmgs but you as an okw player are forced to go for schrecks or you lose for simple reasons.
as i said due the bulletins that reduce cost of the schreck its better to give them a passive abbility that can be used on all maps.
21 Sep 2015, 11:47 AM
#29
Posts: 134
You have best AT infantry weapon in game on cheapest, most spammable squad in a faction with menpower overflow.
That alone justifies their high price.
Only reason to ever make it cheaper would equal to moving it on more expensive squad that isn't basic infantry.
You are also getting exactly the same benefit as you did since day 1 on summer maps, its cost was fine when bonus was only for 10% of maps, it will be fine when there is no bonus in automatch.
Anything else will lead to shreckblobs back.
but but...
we have the second best AT inf weapon on the cheapest most spammable squad witch can equipe 2 of them (REs)...
if some wants to blob he will blob no matter what the price of the schreck is.
im all for an ability change due to the bulletins that lower the price down to 77 muni already
21 Sep 2015, 11:50 AM
#30
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People always bought the 90 muni Schrecks every chance they got, summer or winter maps.
Cost of Schreck on other units is not indicative because it is either locked into a doctrinal specialist or a twofer bundle that takes away good portion of anti-infantry capability, as opposed to on extremely scalable generalist mainline faction infantry.
Given the relative costs of PIATs and Bazookas, I think Schrecks should cost 90 ammunition.
Cost of Schreck on other units is not indicative because it is either locked into a doctrinal specialist or a twofer bundle that takes away good portion of anti-infantry capability, as opposed to on extremely scalable generalist mainline faction infantry.
Given the relative costs of PIATs and Bazookas, I think Schrecks should cost 90 ammunition.
21 Sep 2015, 12:02 PM
#31
Posts: 134
People always bought the 90 muni Schrecks every chance they got, summer or winter maps.
Cost of Schreck on other units is not indicative because it is either locked into a doctrinal specialist or a twofer bundle that takes away good portion of anti-infantry capability, as opposed to on extremely scalable generalist mainline faction infantry.
Given the relative costs of PIATs and Bazookas, I think Schrecks should cost 90 ammunition.
they had to buy it sice the okw at is (how can i put this) bad compared to the other at guns.
it a thing that you need asap not something you can go for when ever you want.
im fine with the price of 90 but im not fine with the ability that goes with it.
21 Sep 2015, 13:22 PM
#32
1 Posts: 412
you dont get it,
for comparison it would be like playing extra for an lmg (usf 30 cal) to have a passive abbility (supressinon) witch you can use, lets say, on 2 or 3 maps. and now you cant use that abiltiy at all so whats the point of the higer price of that lmg? is sould be 60 muni again right? since its doctrinal and lmg42 is a bit better witch cots the same.
yet still you as an usf player are not forced to use the lmgs but you as an okw player are forced to go for schrecks or you lose for simple reasons.
as i said due the bulletins that reduce cost of the schreck its better to give them a passive abbility that can be used on all maps.
Actually I see a lot of high level players not buy PShrecks and just get Raketens. They use the munitions instead of fusiliers or grenades.
21 Sep 2015, 13:53 PM
#33
Posts: 145
I would love to see shreck price increase, just to remove that stupid muni penality. I hardly get more than 2, but i like to go mines and abilities heavy.
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