2 Solutions for JP4 Camo (serious thread, not trolling)

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 08:27 AMNabarxos

i understand the problem you had during that game

now according to the forums the churchill has(tech one)

1600HP
270-280 Armor
its as slow or slower then a king tiger
has a gun like the kv-1s or/and a little better

its an anvill unit(so you dont get it if you choose hammer)

it costs 540Mp and 150Fuel

now i also have to say that the comet and the is-2/isu-152 have better armor then the churchill atm before i go on

now the churchill if it bounces 3 raketenwefer at shots is just RNG (it may even happen on comets and is-2s) so you cant base much balance to it

as for the pak43s hitting the churchill and Penetrating BUT not killing it but leaving it heavily damaged is not broken either,infact it would be a better choice to bring a jagdpanzer 4/panther to finish of the churchills instead of at guns


the same thing happens with the USF against panthers and tigers,they have too much armor,HP and they escape with "smoke" its the same thing with churchills

also i dont see them as god tanks in any way(still havent seen a churchill beat tigers/panthers/jagdpanzer 4s)

the only thing i would suggest is a price increase(more fuel to like 200) but then again i dont see how its possible to spam them without having support

still if an HP redution is needed then we should decrease the price of it or otherwise the comet will be the only viable option late game

i should also point out that during the alpha the churchill was the most overpriced shitty unit you could field(losing to 1 pak,panzer 4 or even stugs for the matter)cause it didnt took damage like it was supposed to and it was VERY SLOW and most people went for a comet so bear that in mind

Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2015, 22:19 PMWhySooSerious

This thread gave me cancer when Alex came in...now its mehish. Inb4 Alex comes back.

Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2015, 22:30 PMaaa

unit costs 400/100 its very low price for what it does. Its nearly impossible to kill veted jp with any tanks in a close game.

Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2015, 22:36 PMWhySooSerious

this is not towards you but towards most people in general.

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Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 01:21 AMRobbie_Rotten

It needs a much longer out of combat requirement. It should be for ambushing not for escaping. (its even called ambush camo )

So I'm all for solution 2.

Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 22:53 PMAlexzandvar

The answer is because it's a video game. The cloaking mechanic exists to give it something to use to escape from enemy armor because it represents a significant investment for the OKW player and it has terrible maneuverability.

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2015, 00:50 AMAchtAchter

Australian magic you easily could've destroyed the jp4 with attack ground. Sometimes I think you are the only strategist on coh2.org that has l2p issues.

I generally wouldn't advise to nerf the weakest faction even further.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 06:40 AMslother

And let's increase penetration for first shot from camo, since there is cooldown u wont be spamming it.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 13:20 PMRobbie_Rotten

I'm fine with that. I would even be fine with moving its alpha strike from vet 4 (5?) to vet 2 if they made the out of combat requirement 20 seconds.