Bans and Maplist discussion thread

We are updating the rules with this important information:

Open Qualifier Banned Units, Abilities, and Commanders

Banned Unit:
The British Forces Vickers MG. This unit is bugged in such a way that it cannot be used normally without exploiting the advantage given by the bug. If you build this unit, and your opponent requests adjudication against you, you will be disqualified.

Banned Ability:
Using a British Forces glider to crush and destroy and OKW truck is considered an exploit. If you do this, and your opponent requests adjudication against you, you will be disqualified.

Banned Commanders:
Soviets Partisans
USF Rifle Company
The British Forces Special Weapons Regiment (Croc)
The British Forces Vanguard Operations (Croc)
Wehrmacht Elite Troops

If you select one of these commanders in-game, and your opponent requests adjudication against you, you will be disqualified.

*note: these bans are for the Open Qualifier Tournament only. They will be re-evaluated after the September 21 (or 22nd) Hotfix, before The Main Event.

Open Qualification Maps

Round-of-512: Arnhem Checkpoint Best-of-1 (if necessary)
Round-of-256: Angoville Farms Best-of-1
Round-of-128: Kholodny Summer Best-of-3
Round-of-64: Semoskiy Winter (new) Best-of-3
Round-of-32: Arnhem Checkpoint Best-of-3
Round-of-16: Angoville Farms Best-of-3

Main Event Map Pool

1) Angoville
2) Arnhem Checkpoint
3) Kholodny Summer
4) Semoskiy Winter (new: deep snow reduced)
5) Langreskaya (new: VPs centralized)
6) Faymonville Approach
7) Crossing in the Woods

Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 12:38 PMCruzz

You should also ban purposedly decrewing your own team weapons with friendly fire, there are extremely few legitimate reasons to do this, but plenty of exploits with decrewed team weapons getting stacked bonuses from a large number of abilities and veterancy bonuses.

Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 13:03 PM__deleted__

Cruzz is still stuart bug with stun shock real or the fixed it ? (i cant find it in changelog)

Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 13:47 PMpugzii

Banning the Vickers is just ridiculous. You might aswel just remove British Forces from the available armies for the torny. They can't fight without the Vickers, they're more dependant on it than the Wehr.

This torny is screwed before it even began because of Relic. I said before and before that there should be an official balance patch developed by the community for this torny. Relying on Relic is never the option to take, and now we have a literally destroyed allied army because of it.

Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 16:13 PMl4hti

I think banning whole commanders is so lame. Who cares if crocodile, vet 1 rifles, tiger ace and troop training is OP? Just ban units, dont ban whole commanders! If you forget bans and use some of those abilites its your fault that you didnt read the rules. If we are going for it, just ban volksgrenadiers because their nade is op. Better ban ISG too, its too op. And CAS.

And British without Vickers? Brits without vickers is nothing Dont know so much about the bug, but cant you just ban abusing the bug?

Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 16:13 PMl4hti

And British without Vickers? Brits without vickers is nothing Dont know so much about the bug, but cant you just ban abusing the bug?

Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 16:32 PMcomputerheat

The problem is that the bug triggers so easily that it can happen unintentionally. For the "On Me!" bug and the puma aimed shot bugs, you at least had to try to make them happen most of the time.

Anyway, these rules only apply to tomorrow's games. These issues are supposed to be fixed by next weekend's games.