Why Vicker HMG is so bad for its price?!!

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 04:41 AMCadianGuardsman

The thing with the Vickers is that it works as intended. It is supposed to be the anchor of a gunline. The ideal thing with a Vickers is to have it behind 2 or 3 Infantry Sections in green cover and KILL THE SHIT out of Germans. The Brits play like a World War One army, it's best people remember that. They win attacks through brute force and they hold ground through killing and causing manpower bleed, the brits don't flank, they don't close, and they don't dance around cover. They sit in cover and shoot the enemy to death with the MG staying in the rear as a line backer, The MG is not supposed to be at the front, if it's getting fraged by OKW you're placing them poorly. If you're getting OSTH Rifle nades try leaving your MG's out of cover, yes it's heresy, but if you have a good 3 sections with brens infront of it, then it will survive.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 07:37 AMFiresparks

Nice theory, but it doesn't work in practice. Vickers without the suppression effect will get easily focused down by horde of infantry.

the infantry section also have worst close range dps than the grenadier. Imagine trying to use mg42 without its awesome suppression effect. HMG need suppression and damage to be useful.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 08:11 AMRMMLz

Mortar says hi.

Regarding OP, its far suppression is low IMO. It needs less accuracy but higher suppression at far. Rifle nades also need range reduction when suppressed which is an ancient issue.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 08:14 AMKatitof

Why would it need less accuracy?
It already does less dps then cheaper HMG42 at that range.

Its not bad HMG, but it definitely doesn't stand up to its price in comparison to cheaper and superior HMG42.

Inb4 some amoeba comes up with "but ketetoooof, it haz suprir cloz rung di pi ez", how often do you put your infantry within 10 range of hmg frontally for extended time periods?

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 09:18 AMRMMLz

but every time I wank into one, I have enough time to walk back/get out of it's arc or even crawl and riflenade the shti out of it.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 09:31 AMKatitof

Thats precisely why its suppression is too low