Hello there!
Im very disappointed about the new Hardbots.
Some facts which i testet out:
-They get more Manpower, i think 50% more.
-a little bit more Fuel
-and the worst:
If you leave a Teammatch, a hardbot will take over your troops.
so... what are your thoughts about this?
NEW BOTS ARE BROKEN
5 Sep 2015, 20:49 PM
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5 Sep 2015, 21:01 PM
#2
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no public accusations on this site pls. send a replay to enforcement@relic.com
ketetof shudnt b allaud tew tawlk abowt balence hee s biasd
5 Sep 2015, 21:05 PM
#3
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no public accusations on this site pls. send a replay to enforcement@relic.com
This must be a troll account can an admin ban him pls? I mean just look at that signature
5 Sep 2015, 21:08 PM
#4
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Sry boys, new to the forum.. so never mind then
5 Sep 2015, 21:08 PM
#5
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This must be a troll account can an admin ban him pls? I mean just look at that signature
snipester pls. you dont have enough ocf levels for admins to even hear you. go buy some moar.
ketetof shudnt b allaud tew tawlk abowt balence hee s biasd
5 Sep 2015, 21:08 PM
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no public accusations on this site pls. send a replay to enforcement@relic.com
What accusation? He's talking about BOTs, AI, Computer.
On topics: I'm not sure AI cheats in CoH2. Back in vCoH, Expert AI used to cheat but I don't think that's the case here.
5 Sep 2015, 21:10 PM
#7
Posts: 5
im just talking about the changes to the hardbots,
now they "cheat" too
go check it out!
play vs AI and watch the replay
+ a hard bot will replace your left teammate.
now they "cheat" too
go check it out!
play vs AI and watch the replay
+ a hard bot will replace your left teammate.
5 Sep 2015, 21:17 PM
#8
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What accusation? He's talking about BOTs, AI, Computer.
On topics: I'm not sure AI cheats in CoH2. Back in vCoH, Expert AI used to cheat but I don't think that's the case here.
go to post #7
ketetof shudnt b allaud tew tawlk abowt balence hee s biasd
5 Sep 2015, 21:32 PM
#9
Posts: 2819
AI is surprisingly hard. I think it's fucking awesome now to play a comp stomp to check new tactics.
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
5 Sep 2015, 22:15 PM
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AI got some decent skill boost. I was checking brits first day and was pretty surprised at all the bunkers and pressure form that bot. Kudos.
Replacing a human player with a hard bot shouldnt be a problem though, even if he cheats, its an easy win for the other site. But I can imagine it being a problem on lower levels of play, were people are not on the level of easily beating an expert bot.
Not sure how to fix that though.
Replacing a human player with a hard bot shouldnt be a problem though, even if he cheats, its an easy win for the other site. But I can imagine it being a problem on lower levels of play, were people are not on the level of easily beating an expert bot.
Not sure how to fix that though.
5 Sep 2015, 22:39 PM
#11
Posts: 150
What accusation? He's talking about BOTs, AI, Computer.
On topics: I'm not sure AI cheats in CoH2. Back in vCoH, Expert AI used to cheat but I don't think that's the case here.
I'm not sure about the hard ai, but the extreme ai is definietly cheating, it has doubled mp income.
5 Sep 2015, 22:53 PM
#12
Posts: 5
do a Ai game, fight against Hardbot and watch the replay
you can see that he gets more MP.
Hardbot is now cheating too.
A cheating Ai is a unfair compensate for a leaving Teammate.
AND YES! A HARD BOT WILL REPLACE A HUMAN PLAYER.
you can see that he gets more MP.
Hardbot is now cheating too.
A cheating Ai is a unfair compensate for a leaving Teammate.
AND YES! A HARD BOT WILL REPLACE A HUMAN PLAYER.
5 Sep 2015, 23:00 PM
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hard bot always replaced the real player and it was never a problem. I agree that these bots are now better than before, not only economically but also tactically and bug wise but it shouldnt be a problem as even the expert AI is in fact a really easy opponent compared to multiplayer players.
5 Sep 2015, 23:01 PM
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do a Ai game, fight against Hardbot and watch the replay
you can see that he gets more MP.
Hardbot is now cheating too.
A cheating Ai is a unfair compensate for a leaving Teammate.
AND YES! A HARD BOT WILL REPLACE A HUMAN PLAYER.
So whats your suggestion to fix your problem?
5 Sep 2015, 23:18 PM
#15
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wow hard bot so hard to win against 
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6 Sep 2015, 00:30 AM
#16
Posts: 254
If you watched HelpingHans' stream today you might have witnessed his 2v2 where his teammate quit pretty early on. Suffice it to say, the replacement AI is playing better than a large number of players actually do.
It's pretty sad.
It's pretty sad.
6 Sep 2015, 00:55 AM
#17
Posts: 341
To be fair the AI will be better at most things than the majority of players out there, simply because none of us can be looking and microing in more than one place at one time.
On the topic of "AI cheating" this has always been the case. AI have always had an increased income, 50% extra for Hard and 100% for Expert.
The only two things they can't do better than a Human is micro and strategize.
On the topic of "AI cheating" this has always been the case. AI have always had an increased income, 50% extra for Hard and 100% for Expert.
The only two things they can't do better than a Human is micro and strategize.
6 Sep 2015, 02:04 AM
#18
Posts: 431
I thought it was just me that the AI seemed harder. I used to beat expert basically 100% of the time, and now I can barely keep up with them because the cheats must have gotten ramped up. I can only really handle hard now unless I'm pulling some cheesy strategy on a cheesy map. I know they have always cheated, but it seems way worse now.
6 Sep 2015, 03:18 AM
#19
Posts: 128
fuck,this I guess this is why I lost to 2 hard AI yesterday.I mean I used to beat up 2 expert AI with the help of a lousy teammate
It takes great skills to hide the fact that you have great skills
6 Sep 2015, 03:23 AM
#20
Posts: 113
The bots are 100% cheating. Was in a 2v2 with a mate, one enemy abandoned once we'd wiped his stuff, and a bot took over. Within minutes, it had run it's Panzer IV "accidentally" into a group of camo'd commandos, had built two immortal LeIfs(What the fuck is up with that thing's HP? Was blasting it with two AT guns and a cromwell for literally 3 or 4 minutes straight, got it down to maybe half HP) that were bombing my emplacements that it couldn't see, and even predicting the retreat path of my squads to wipe them on retreat with it's arty. (I was repairing my Cromwell well behind the lines and in a weird spot to avoid pre-fire, and it still hit it dead on with the two LeIfs, first shot, wiping the Sappers and blowing the tank. )
We lost the game because the bot indirect fired or tank-cheated it's way through our entire armies.
)We lost the game because the bot indirect fired or tank-cheated it's way through our entire armies.
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