Chruchill AVRE tank OP

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 18:58 PMAlexzandvar

This goes for the Sturmtiger as well

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Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 19:09 PMAustralian Magic

Yes, because ST has a turret which rotate in opposite direction which leads us to 180degree turn when reached the target.
Unless you are advancing with ST using reverse

I mean, really. Dont argue. Last time you tried my signature was born and today you thought that railway is more devastating than ST so...

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 19:14 PMAlexzandvar

I never said it was more devastating, I said it had a large Area of Effect. I don't know why your making such a stickler point out of this.

The ST does have to rotate to shoot, as it has no turret. And obviously you won't reverse at the enemy but you will need to keep re-positioning it in order to be able to shoot at the enemy since the angle of you relative the enemy keeps changing because your main gun is non-traversable without the rotation of the tank.

The day you signature was born I actually decided to delve into the stat files myself with extracting, so I can pretty much always now exactly whats going on. And honestly? The call out culture on these forums is so insanely toxic that every time there is any kind of argument it instantly devolve into people focusing on a single wrong small piece of information totally ignoring the actual content of the argument.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 19:14 PMAlexzandvar

I never said it was more devastating, I said it had a large Area of Effect. I don't know why your making such a stickler point out of this.

The ST does have to rotate to shoot, as it has no turret. And obviously you won't reverse at the enemy but you will need to keep re-positioning it in order to be able to shoot at the enemy since the angle of you relative the enemy keeps changing because your main gun is non-traversable without the rotation of the tank.

The day you signature was born I actually decided to delve into the stat files myself with extracting, so I can pretty much always now exactly whats going on. And honestly? The call out culture on these forums is so insanely toxic that every time there is any kind of argument it instantly devolve into people focusing on a single wrong small piece of information totally ignoring the actual content of the argument.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 18:13 PMOZtheWiZARD

Agreed. Also there was no smoke! They should have used smoke to flank! No chance without smoke! Clearly L2P.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 19:15 PMFerdinand

I see that posting videos of 75% health and under tanks getting blown up by the AVRE is a "1 shot". How about a video of the sturmtiger blowing up an SU-85 from 100% health?



You people are posting stupid videos displaying one thing then calling it something completely different. In neither video of the OP did the AVRE 1 shot a tank from 100% to 0%. The only reason those tanks were destroyed in 1 shot is because of a prior engagement. The only issue which needs to be addressed is the reloading balance between the two tanks. Besides that don't be brain dead, you will see the AVRE before it can shoot.

To answer the OP's question at AVRE vs KT. I've used it against the KingTiger and it only took about a third of it's HP out frontally. Wasn't under ideal circumstances but seemed like it would take at least 3 hits to kill a KT. I had to bugger out because the KT and Panther I was fighting took me down to 50%.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 19:18 PMAustralian Magic

Point is, you have a quite long history of being wrong constantly.

Reposition? You can check Dusty cast of mine game with ST vs SturmTigers. Move, shoot, wipe, reload with no warning, no repositioning.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 19:15 PMFerdinand

I see that posting videos of 75% health and under tanks getting blown up by the AVRE is a "1 shot". How about a video of the sturmtiger blowing up an SU-85 from 100% health?



You people are posting stupid videos displaying one thing then calling it something completely different. In neither video of the OP did the AVRE 1 shot a tank from 100% to 0%. The only reason those tanks were destroyed in 1 shot is because of a prior engagement. The only issue which needs to be addressed is the reloading balance between the two tanks. Besides that don't be brain dead, you will see the AVRE before it can shoot.

To answer the OP's question at AVRE vs KT. I've used it against the KingTiger and it only took about a third of it's HP out frontally. Wasn't under ideal circumstances but seemed like it would take at least 3 hits to kill a KT. I had to bugger out because the KT and Panther I was fighting took me down to 50%.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 20:21 PMKubelecer

No you see, if it's an axis unit it's a feature.

If it's allied, it's a OP piece of shit no skill 1 shot king tiger OP. Did I mention OP?

Next on coh2.org balancing:

Make USF tanks randomly explode when they shoot, jacksons outrange my kubelwagon WTF relic pls nerf.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 20:46 PMBlackKorp

Both Churchill AVRE and Sturmtiger are worst units in coh2, one shots are just disgusting and nothing more.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 21:32 PMUS3K

Gotta say i'm with team Fuck You Axis on this.

You can't bitch about the AVRE without acknowledging that the Sturmtiger needs a good clobber with the nerf bat too. Ideally i'd like to see both of them reworked as super squadwiping machines aren't fun.

Sure is going to be fun taking out volk and pgren blobs with the thing though. Also looking forward to having tanks that can bounce, hit and move quickly, and AT that punches hard.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 21:35 PM__deleted__

It gets nerfed brah

http://www.coh2.org/topic/39402/upcomming-patch-balance-preview-by-jason-lee/post/385709

but only reload

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 21:58 PMKatitof

Bug fix != nerf.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2015, 20:21 PMKubelecer

No you see, if it's an axis unit it's a feature.

If it's allied, it's a OP piece of shit no skill 1 shot king tiger OP. Did I mention OP?

Next on coh2.org balancing:

Make USF tanks randomly explode when they shoot, jacksons outrange my kubelwagon WTF relic pls nerf.