Rear echelon - the worst engineer unit.

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2015, 23:19 PMcomm_ash

I used to think like you, but then I learned that RE are not meant to be early game infantry. They are meant to be your lategame infantry.

No, i'm not even joking. RE with bars are 100x more efficient than riflemen lategame, and also have the ability to build their own green cover and defenses when they're bored. I sigh with relief when I lose rifle squads in the lategame, because it means that it is time to que up 2 RE quads.

In the early game, they are useful to hold the line from buildings with their lives, defend flanks with wire and tank traps, harass cuttoffs, and clear buildings (FPs).

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2015, 21:45 PMGluhoman

So, why this unit so useless. All other factions have engineers with special bonuses. Re have only nerfed volley fire. So, maybe this unit need buff? Discus.

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2015, 23:19 PMcomm_ash

I used to think like you, but then I learned that RE are not meant to be early game infantry. They are meant to be your lategame infantry.

No, i'm not even joking. RE with bars are 100x more efficient than riflemen lategame, and also have the ability to build their own green cover and defenses when they're bored. I sigh with relief when I lose rifle squads in the lategame, because it means that it is time to que up 2 RE quads.

In the early game, they are useful to hold the line from buildings with their lives, defend flanks with wire and tank traps, harass cuttoffs, and clear buildings (FPs).

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2015, 23:19 PMcomm_ash

I used to think like you, but then I learned that RE are not meant to be early game infantry. They are meant to be your lategame infantry.

No, i'm not even joking. RE with bars are 100x more efficient than riflemen lategame, and also have the ability to build their own green cover and defenses when they're bored. I sigh with relief when I lose rifle squads in the lategame, because it means that it is time to que up 2 RE quads.

In the early game, they are useful to hold the line from buildings with their lives, defend flanks with wire and tank traps, harass cuttoffs, and clear buildings (FPs).

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2015, 21:45 PMGluhoman

So, why this unit so useless. All other factions have engineers with special bonuses. Re have only nerfed volley fire. So, maybe this unit need buff? Discus.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 19:51 PMHux

When they get that 5th man at vet 2 and you give them a BAR and a bazooka

they lack non-doc mines though, this is the only aspect of REs that I think is behind other factions

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 18:55 PMSgtBulldog

Yes RE can do and pick up a lot..

Bottom line, though, they still have the staying power of a dafodil. It means that if you rely too much on them (be it early or late game) you'll be run off the map more easily.

So I don't quite understand the recommendations to replace rifles with RE.

The fact that they cost less to reinforce is irrelevant if you lose map control.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 21:31 PMHux

Only doctrinal though, no?