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Bring back the SdKfz 221 Scout Car

19 Aug 2015, 14:58 PM
#81
avatar of RMMLz

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I think it would be good to bring back 221, nerf it, remove the fuel cost, only manpower, add binocular upgrade.


And how would you counter M3 and M20, dear?
19 Aug 2015, 15:08 PM
#82
avatar of ZombiFrancis

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The 221/222 has slowly been pushed towards becoming the vCoH Puma functionally because the Germans/Ostheer/Wehrmacht? have had to wait for a P4 or an Ostwind to have non-infantry AI. The halftrack was as good an AI force as the scoutcar without the upgun and could also transport and reinforce, which put the old SC in a very awkwardly useless position.

But the thing is, the Germans/Ostheer/Wehrmacht have no unit that can quickly be dispatched to defend a harassed territory point. Luchs, T70s, and even M20s are rather capable of deterring errant squads harassing cutoffs. The 222, unfortunately, is (still) not effective in this role. It takes too much damage from small arms to fulfill any combat role.

The thing about the vCoH puma was that it dominated infantry, but the M8 Greyhound and Stuart could make short work of them. Upgunning the puma sacrificed the AI gun, which was a very meaningful tradeoff for both players to calculate around.
20 Aug 2015, 03:24 AM
#83
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I think it would be good to bring back 221, nerf it, remove the fuel cost, only manpower, add binocular upgrade.


the problem there is that "upgrades cost munitions and never fuel/mp". this is the opposite end of the "units cost mp/fuel, never mun" (baring falls) rule.
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