Bazooka accuracy buff?
8 Aug 2015, 19:50 PM
#1
Posts: 133
Does anyone else feel like the M9 Bazooka needs an accuracy buff? They don't do anywhere near the kind of damage a Panzerschrek does and the accuracy is even less than it but I can live with it doing less damage as long as you're able to even hit something. If you could make 90% of your shots it would almost make up for it's lack of damage compared to Shrecks and I think it'd be fair. Any thoughts?
8 Aug 2015, 20:11 PM
#2
Posts: 1891
Moderator move this please
The Fascisti Will Pay.
8 Aug 2015, 20:21 PM
#3
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Moved to CoH2 Balance
8 Aug 2015, 20:23 PM
#4
Posts: 273
Agreed.. They have already low penetration and low damage. At least, they should be accurate against medium and heavy vehicles..
8 Aug 2015, 20:38 PM
#5
Posts: 204
+1 op
8 Aug 2015, 20:40 PM
#6
Posts: 392
no they should have better penetration and damage.
8 Aug 2015, 20:40 PM
#7
Posts: 758
Agreed.. They have already low penetration and low damage. At least, they should be accurate against medium and heavy vehicles..
i agree bazooka DOES deserve an accuracy buff tho in my opinion it should also get a slight pen and damage buff. how much pen and damage buff well that depends on you.
8 Aug 2015, 20:42 PM
#8
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no they should have better penetration and damage.
that is if it can hit something which 80-90% of the time it doesn't while the panzershreck can
8 Aug 2015, 20:45 PM
#9
Posts: 392
that is if it can hit something which 80-90% of the time it doesn't while the panzershreck can
then whats the point of hitting your target if you cant damage it?
8 Aug 2015, 20:48 PM
#10
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Permanently BannedMore conspiracy theories eh? Sorry halfwits, panzerschreks and bazookas have basically mirrored accuracy. The Evil nazi shrek doesn't have a better chance to hit.
Less gut feelings, more actually learning the stats.
Less gut feelings, more actually learning the stats.
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8 Aug 2015, 20:55 PM
#11
Posts: 59
Didn't they nerf both shrecks and zooks awhile back because they were so accurate they were hitting infantry in squads?
Which they still kinda do... at like... close range or on super lucky shots....
Which they still kinda do... at like... close range or on super lucky shots....
8 Aug 2015, 21:03 PM
#12
Posts: 758
then whats the point of hitting your target if you cant damage it?
very tru but still an accuracy buff is needed how much accuracy buff it deserves well i leave that up to you
8 Aug 2015, 21:09 PM
#13
Posts: 255
More conspiracy theories eh? Sorry halfwits, panzerschreks and bazookas have basically mirrored accuracy. The Evil nazi shrek doesn't have a better chance to hit.
Less gut feelings, more actually learning the stats.
Man it bums me out seeing comments like this. People just having a discussion and someone comes to toxify it all up.
If your Ostheer (which you play the most) you get two Shrecks for the same price as two Zooks, and speaking of stats, zooks have less pen and damage whilst facing heavier targets. Justifiable because why ?
And also, didn't you say you were gonna crack top 50 with USF?
8 Aug 2015, 21:14 PM
#14
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Man it bums me out seeing comments like this. People just having a discussion and someone comes to toxify it all up.
If your Ostheer (which you play the most) you get two Shrecks for the same price as two Zooks, and speaking of stats, zooks have less pen and damage whilst facing heavier targets. Justifiable because why ?
And also, didn't you say you were gonna crack top 50 with USF?
I think that's due to the fact they come on expensive Panzergrenadiers who are giving up two of their assault rifles which are good weapons to become a dedicated AT squad that is also very squishy. I also think there's a discount in there as it's a bundle.
Onto the Bazooka, increases accuracy at range by a small amount and drop them to 50 munitions. Still be generally best to give it to RE regardless, even with changes as you generally want the Rifles to fight infantry by giving them BARs.
Edit: Also if you all did not know and it's probably not much, but Bazookas will always do some damage when they hit a vehicle as they have deflection damage, though it's like only 20 per deflect
8 Aug 2015, 21:15 PM
#15
Posts: 1891
More conspiracy theories eh? Sorry halfwits, panzerschreks and bazookas have basically mirrored accuracy. The Evil nazi shrek doesn't have a better chance to hit.
Less gut feelings, more actually learning the stats.
Pretty much this, although the Bazooka could use a damage buff to 100 and maybe even slightly higher accuracy (15%ish) than the Shrek. Shreks should have pen, Zooks slightly accuracy/squad placement, both do roughly same damage on hit.
The Fascisti Will Pay.
8 Aug 2015, 21:18 PM
#16
Posts: 2561
zook needs 100 damage. It doesn't matter if it hits anything if it doesn't do enough damage to be relevant.
8 Aug 2015, 21:22 PM
#17
Posts: 204
Name:
Panzerschreck Anti Tank Weapon
File name:
panzerschreck_atw_mp.xml
Nation:
ostheer
Penetration:
180.0/170.0/160.0
Scatter angle:
16.0
Scatter distance:
15.0
AoE radius:
0.5
AoE far:
0.25
AoE mid:
0.2
AoE near:
0.15
Name:
Panzerschreck Anti Tank Weapon
File name:
panzerschreck_54_atw_mp.xml
Nation:
oberkommando
Penetration:
180.0/170.0/160.0
Scatter angle:
16.0
Scatter distance:
15.0
AoE radius:
0.5
AoE far:
0.25
AoE mid:
0.2
AoE near:
0.15
Name:
M9 Bazooka Anti Tank Weapon
File name:
m9_bazooka_mp.xml
Nation:
usa
Penetration:
130.0/120.0/110.0
Scatter angle:
18.0
Scatter distance:
14.0
AoE radius:
0.5
AoE far:
0.25
AoE mid:
0.2
AoE near:
0.15
What some people in this thread should of shown rather than insult peoples intelligence, or opinions. Got this data from the CoH2stats page.
Panzerschreck Anti Tank Weapon
File name:
panzerschreck_atw_mp.xml
Nation:
ostheer
Penetration:
180.0/170.0/160.0
Scatter angle:
16.0
Scatter distance:
15.0
AoE radius:
0.5
AoE far:
0.25
AoE mid:
0.2
AoE near:
0.15
Name:
Panzerschreck Anti Tank Weapon
File name:
panzerschreck_54_atw_mp.xml
Nation:
oberkommando
Penetration:
180.0/170.0/160.0
Scatter angle:
16.0
Scatter distance:
15.0
AoE radius:
0.5
AoE far:
0.25
AoE mid:
0.2
AoE near:
0.15
Name:
M9 Bazooka Anti Tank Weapon
File name:
m9_bazooka_mp.xml
Nation:
usa
Penetration:
130.0/120.0/110.0
Scatter angle:
18.0
Scatter distance:
14.0
AoE radius:
0.5
AoE far:
0.25
AoE mid:
0.2
AoE near:
0.15
What some people in this thread should of shown rather than insult peoples intelligence, or opinions. Got this data from the CoH2stats page.
8 Aug 2015, 21:27 PM
#18
Posts: 1116 | Subs: 1
Permanently BannedPretty much been advocating 100 damage since day 1. It would put the bazooka ina much better spot.
Pretty much this, although the Bazooka could use a damage buff to 100 and maybe even slightly higher accuracy (15%ish) than the Shrek. Shreks should have pen, Zooks slightly accuracy/squad placement, both do roughly same damage on hit.
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8 Aug 2015, 21:44 PM
#19
Posts: 836 | Subs: 5
From those stats it seems the accuracy difference to panzer schrecks are quite minor.
Still, making them aligned isn't a bad idea, the bazooka kinda needs it (or a cost reduction to 45/50 if it stays as is)
Still, making them aligned isn't a bad idea, the bazooka kinda needs it (or a cost reduction to 45/50 if it stays as is)
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8 Aug 2015, 21:51 PM
#20
3 Posts: 658
Accuracy is exactly the same.
The difference in terms of scatter hardly makes a difference.
A damage buff to 100 and a slight cost reduction would be enough.
The difference in terms of scatter hardly makes a difference.
A damage buff to 100 and a slight cost reduction would be enough.
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