1v1 balance issues.

Soviet need T3 nerf

OKW need early game buff

USF need late game buff

Ostheer is fine.


If i had to rate the current early games out of 10... it would be...

Sov - 8/10
USF - 9/10
OKW - 6/10
Ost - 8/10

keep in mind the early game is where most battles are won or lost.

Thoughts?

Soviet need T3 nerf

So germs will be abusing their T1 with an extra unit advantage and 4 AI unit types right from the begining.
Those who dont abuse T1 they dont care about oponents T3.

So germs will be abusing their T1 with an extra unit advantage and 4 AI unit types right from the begining.
Those who dont abuse T1 they dont care about oponents T3.

You know nothing and are about as qualified to comment on balance as a member of the monster raving looney party.

Id sooner ask Pussyking or Lolcake for their opinions...

Soviet need T3 nerf
OKW need early game buff

USF need late game buff

Ostheer is fine.


If i had to rate the current early games out of 10... it would be...

Sov - 8/10
USF - 9/10
OKW - 6/10
Ost - 8/10

keep in mind the early game is where most battles are won or lost.

USF 9 out 10. Need a buff.
Sov 8 out of 10 Need a nerf.

USF 9 out 10. Need a buff.
Sov 8 out of 10 Need a nerf.

I specify which parts need a nerf (Early or Late game) and a buff... maybe you should master reading the English language before replying?

Id sooner ask Pussyking or Lolcake for their opinions...

you dont ask anythinf anuone. You whine and claim that this BS is right all the time.
"Buff my main fraction directly or by nerfing oponents strong abilities" - thats what you say

So germs will be abusing their T1 with an extra unit advantage and 4 AI unit types right from the begining.
Those who dont abuse T1 they dont care about oponents T3.

What extra unit? Whoever techs first will be down a unit, it is equal.

OKW is fine

OST is fine

SOV is fine

USF is shit (Gonna need major buffs to fix this)

m5 quad is broken, on top of other things, TWP is still stupid for example.

So get better

What extra unit? Whoever techs first will be down a unit, it is equal.

http://www.coh2.org/topic/37781/why-oh-has-1-squad-in-the-opening

No you are wrong here. OH outnuber any fraction after 1st tech building. I saw it 100 times. I wasnt the first who say that

http://www.coh2.org/topic/37781/why-oh-has-1-squad-in-the-opening

No you are wrong here. OH outnuber any fraction after 1st tech building. I saw it 100 times. I wasnt the first who say that

Ost can only get more infantry against USF, Sov can get just as much.

OKW is fine

OST is fine

SOV is fine

USF is shit (Gonna need major buffs to fix this)

m5 quad is broken, on top of other things, TWP is still stupid for example.

So get better

I agree in general. M5 they wanna nerf it its redicolous. It wont help them much. M5 is a rare unit. Has its weakneses.
1. Bad acceleration
2. Loses to luchs
3. small dps at long range
that why most 1v1 players prefer T70.
plus this patch Sov is very MP heavy so must spend fuel on smth like T70.

I agree in general. M5 they wanna nerf it its redicolous. It wont help them much. M5 is a rare unit. Has its weakneses. Bad acceleration that why most 1v1 players prefer T70.
plus this patch Sov is very MP heavy so must spend fuel on smth like T70.

I see M5 almost every match versus soviets, what game are you playing?

I agree in general. M5 they wanna nerf it its redicolous. It wont help them much. M5 is a rare unit. Has its weakneses. Bad acceleration that why most 1v1 players prefer T70.
plus this patch Sov is very MP heavy so must spend fuel on smth like T70.

Sov vehicles are NOT mp heavy. M5 rare?

OP: here is the correct rankings

Sov - 10/10
USF - 6/10
OKW - 7/10
Ost - 10/10

The fact that you rank USF above sov and Ost below USF confirms that your 1v1 is experience is lacking and very limited.

I see M5 almost every match versus soviets, what game are you playing?

I personaly dont care much about m5.

I can give you lits of all games (like 10) of top 1v1 that i watched recently. M5 was made only once. I never saw rush to any T3 unit.
Last game Ihito made first T3 unit ar 9 CP for example. The same story with Sprice, Jesulin

Just last 3 games
http://www.coh2.org/replay/37840/hardcore-game--rng-jesus-bless-us--replay-must-be-casted
http://www.coh2.org/replay/37823/how-to-rekt-tigers-very-fast-kappa
http://www.coh2.org/replay/37083/vs-luvnest-epic-game
Where is single M5 there?

I agree in general. M5 they wanna nerf it its redicolous. It wont help them much. M5 is a rare unit. Has its weakneses.
1. Bad acceleration
2. Loses to luchs
3. small dps at long range
that why most 1v1 players prefer T70.
plus this patch Sov is very MP heavy so must spend fuel on smth like T70.

1. Just on par with its Ostheer counterpart which only has .2 speed and .1 acceleration more. 7.2/2.1 versus 7.0/2.0 while having a superior upgrade and is resistant to small-arms. And with the Quad, you dont even need to brake to do its job and you can even kick it into Overdrive given how fast it gets vet.

2. Any everything else in the T3 will beat the Luchs down and the M5 Quad shouldn't be able to take on the Luchs. Quad can already beat down the majority of the other light vehicles unless it's a Puma(soft-hard counter) while the Luchs requires OKW's T3 and will set them back. And the Luchs still needs time to actually kill the Half-track.

3. 11 DPS at range of 45 and very strong suppression capabilities that is superior to many small-arms based weapons and MGs at this range. And if it gets close, bye-bye infantry squad (excellent counter-harassment) (Only incendiary will get you something similar)

4.Soviets manpower heavy? You losing 5/6 conscripts per fight and 5/6 weapon teams? I'm sorry, but Soviets don't bleed manpower that badly unless you're doing something wrong or are just running head on and hoping to win. Throw the M5 with T2 and good luck clearing all those 6 man support teams.

I'm sorry, but Soviets don't bleed manpower that badly unless you're doing something wrong or are just running head on and hoping to win. Throw the M5 with T2 and good luck clearing all those 6 man support teams.

Previoud patch I had exess of MP. But now T4 (only fuel tier) is too expensive to build so I skip it ussualy.
And
For katy you have ML 20
T3476 doesnt worth so expensive tech
SU85 - the only loss basicaly. I replace it with double ZIS



I ussuay have
1. 1-2 snipers
2. 2 ZIS and 1SU76 or 3ZIS
3. ML 20
in adition to cons and MG

Lots of MP everywhere and no Fuel.

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The fact that you rank USF above sov and Ost below USF confirms that your 1v1 is experience is lacking and very limited.

Before I didnt rank anything I just copied text of TS.
If I rank
game is better than ever in term of balance. Only USF I suppose is kind of UP
1. vs all OH T1 units.
2. late game tanks

Keep Axis the same, nerf Soviet and buff USF accordingly.

Ostheer is strong, but kinda stale with how forced you are to use mobile defense to counter T3 abusers. Personally Iv found more success with the faction in 1v1 than 2v2 strangely enough.