Stuart and Quad rush are pretty retarded,but....

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 16:03 PMAlexzandvar

Why not just offer a AT rifle upgrade to Grens and Volks that would give them a moderate increase in AI performance as well as the ability to help stave off light vehicle rushes?

Volks Light Anti Tank Package: 90 munitions upgrading the squad with 3 AT rifles and enabling the ability to lay light AT mines no truck required

Grens Light Anti Tank Package: 60 munitions upgrading the squad with 2 AT rifles and enabling the ability to fire the panzerfaust at longer ranges BP 1 required.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 16:15 PMMidconflict

Because the Volk and Gren don't need any more reason to be blobed

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 16:03 PMAlexzandvar

Why not just offer a AT rifle upgrade to Grens and Volks that would give them a moderate increase in AI performance as well as the ability to help stave off light vehicle rushes?

Volks Light Anti Tank Package: 90 munitions upgrading the squad with 3 AT rifles and enabling the ability to lay light AT mines no truck required

Grens Light Anti Tank Package: 60 munitions upgrading the squad with 2 AT rifles and enabling the ability to fire the panzerfaust at longer ranges BP 1 required.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 17:05 PMQueenRatchet123

volks planting mines, grens with AT rifles AND snares... Increased AI performance as well?


Wa...What?

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 17:30 PMAlexzandvar

AT rifles (such as the PTRS) provide a small increase in AI performance; if you look at the infantry DPS on the PTRS it isn't that fantastic compared to say a regular Kar98k. AT rifles would just be a way of offering Axis a way to help deal with light armor while not encouraging people to spam the upgrade.

And I said light AT mines you know like the Tank Hunter Tactics ones or the USF ones? And the increased snare range on Grens would be to compensate for the fact they cannot get an LMG42 or G43's and are locked into a soft AT role.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 16:03 PMAlexzandvar

Why not just offer a AT rifle upgrade to Grens and Volks that would give them a moderate increase in AI performance as well as the ability to help stave off light vehicle rushes?

Volks Light Anti Tank Package: 90 munitions upgrading the squad with 3 AT rifles and enabling the ability to lay light AT mines no truck required

Grens Light Anti Tank Package: 60 munitions upgrading the squad with 2 AT rifles and enabling the ability to fire the panzerfaust at longer ranges BP 1 required.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 17:31 PMQueenRatchet123

One unit is OP (m5). Nurf the m5 instead of making other units op.

Your logic: USF stuggles against long range TD's. Jackson should get an ultra-sniper upgrade for 90muni, granting it 100 range and 70 sight with the ability to reveal cloaked units

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 17:35 PMAlexzandvar

Do you think Guards are OP? Because they counter light vehicles while not having to pay for their PTRS's, or having to be teched for, or having a build time. You are seriously overestimating how powerful AT rifles are.

Light armor rushes are a problem in general, not just the M5 Quad Mount.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 17:39 PMQueenRatchet123

Light armor rushes are NOT a problem, It just the m5.

Guards are not op. Why? They don't have any snares and they are doctrinal. Ok lemme just end this. If YOU cannot see how buffing both volks and grens in both AI and AT is op? I dunno what to tell you..... Again, because ONE unit is overpowering.

EDIT: Think of the trade off, AT rifles mean no LMG42 or Shreks/Cold Protection.

if you look at the infantry DPS on the PTRS it isn't that fantastic compared to say a regular Kar98k.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 17:43 PMAlexzandvar

Guards can also slow tanks with button so...

This would just offer more options than just going Puma every time or rushing to T2 to get a Pak ASAP. Also do you think Conscript AT rifle packages are OP? Because they have a snare and AT rifles.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 18:02 PMAlexzandvar

I never thought I would see it but calling AT rifles OP is just amazing.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 18:02 PMAlexzandvar

I never thought I would see it but calling AT rifles OP is just amazing. Obviously that Kar98k DPS is just to brutal to handle, and that AT damage....gosh could you think of the consequences!? OKW players might spam it will of their reduced income munitions!

What shock and horror be laid down upon us if the ability to provide soft light vehicle counters was available. As we know more options are bad and such suggestions could only be the work of the dreaded Axis fanboy! Oh look here he comes now!

https://youtu.be/4Ah2I166f_U?t=37

Jump back to quoted post27 Jul 2015, 03:37 AMQueenRatchet123

Stop trying to turn this into an OKW needs X,Y, and Z thread.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 19:21 PMelchino7

PTRS are downgrade on the AI department (specially the Conscript ones)

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 09:31 AMvasa1719

You forget that 222 are SCOUT, not tank.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 16:03 PMAlexzandvar

Why not just offer a AT rifle upgrade to Grens and Volks that would give them a moderate increase in AI performance as well as the ability to help stave off light vehicle rushes?

Volks Light Anti Tank Package: 90 munitions upgrading the squad with 3 AT rifles and enabling the ability to lay light AT mines no truck required

Grens Light Anti Tank Package: 60 munitions upgrading the squad with 2 AT rifles and enabling the ability to fire the panzerfaust at longer ranges BP 1 required.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2015, 16:03 PMAlexzandvar

Why not just offer a AT rifle upgrade to Grens and Volks that would give them a moderate increase in AI performance as well as the ability to help stave off light vehicle rushes?

Volks Light Anti Tank Package: 90 munitions upgrading the squad with 3 AT rifles and enabling the ability to lay light AT mines no truck required

Grens Light Anti Tank Package: 60 munitions upgrading the squad with 2 AT rifles and enabling the ability to fire the panzerfaust at longer ranges BP 1 required.