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Tiger II (H) bulletins

20 Jul 2015, 08:16 AM
#1
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Hi there,

I have been wondering lately about what sort of bulletins exist for Tiger II (H) or KoningsTiger. I have seen some players using the rare KoningsTiger gains veterancy 10% faster bulletin, but that is about it. Does anyone know anything about other KoningsTiger bulletins? Could you perhaps list the bulletins that you know of

Greatly appreciated!

20 Jul 2015, 11:10 AM
#2
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Simply put, there is NONE !

Only the mentioned 10% Vet up bulletin. That's why as a sign of protest I troll around with 3 of them stacked.

It's a damn shame how KT is being treated, bulletinwise and regarding the recent armor and blitz nerf.

Presently and effectively since IS2 has an armor bulletin and KT doesnt, it's armor value can be greater than that of the KT, which is imho, plain silly.

On the other hand with blitz bein' marginally useless on the KT, the unit really lacks any kind of countermeasure except it's potent frontal armor, which is also debatable after the nerf..

I see fewer and fewer Tiger II's in even large team games, and there's a an obvious reason behind it.

all trucks converted, too expensive, too late, and too vulnerable to practically anything except infantry.

"swarm" of (two) mediums own it, ranged tank hunters own it, airstrikes own it, even smart arty play owns it.

So Sapienti sat.

I would really love to see some kind of buffs to the KT at least in the form of available upgrades..

Why not give it the possibility of armor re:buff in form of zimmerite coatings for 50 ammo ?

Smoke, spotting scopes whatever.. 'cause in this state this big cat is destined for extinction ;O

Hope Relic realizes this in time.
20 Jul 2015, 11:17 AM
#3
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Like if the KT by itself wins the matches... I don't get you guys who protest so much about a single units stats.
20 Jul 2015, 11:18 AM
#4
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 11:10 AM$nuffy
Simply put, there is NONE !

Only the mentioned 10% Vet up bulletin. That's why as a sign of protest I troll around with 3 of them stacked.

It's a damn shame how KT is being treated, bulletinwise and regarding the recent armor and blitz nerf.

Presently and effectively since IS2 has an armor bulletin and KT doesnt, it's armor value can be greater than that of the KT, which is imho, plain silly.

On the other hand with blitz bein' marginally useless on the KT, the unit really lacks any kind of countermeasure except it's potent frontal armor, which is also debatable after the nerf..

I see fewer and fewer Tiger II's in even large team games, and there's a an obvious reason behind it.

all trucks converted, too expensive, too late, and too vulnerable to practically anything except infantry.

"swarm" of (two) mediums own it, ranged tank hunters own it, airstrikes own it, even smart arty play owns it.

So Sapienti sat.

I would really love to see some kind of buffs to the KT at least in the form of available upgrades..

Why not give it the possibility of armor re:buff in form of zimmerite coatings for 50 ammo ?

Smoke, spotting scopes whatever.. 'cause in this state this big cat is destined for extinction ;O

Hope Relic realizes this in time.


boohoo my big kitten so weak :foreveralone:

i love the königstiger, its just perfect atm.
20 Jul 2015, 11:32 AM
#5
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KT is a garbage after last nurf, the armour reduction should have came with a price reduction. It's insanely slow and vonurable to any tanks with range. I'd either like to see a price decrease, or a range increase.
20 Jul 2015, 12:02 PM
#6
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KT is a garbage after last nurf, the armour reduction should have came with a price reduction. It's insanely slow and vonurable to any tanks with range. I'd either like to see a price decrease, or a range increase.

or increased rate of fire and damage ( if happens need to modify vet 5 too)
20 Jul 2015, 12:03 PM
#7
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i love the königstiger, its just perfect atm.


I agree. I was just wondering if there were any other KT bulletins out there. Since I have yet to get the 10% veterancy faster bulletin myself.
20 Jul 2015, 12:07 PM
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or increased rate of fire and damage ( if happens need to modify vet 5 too)


I think you guys underestimate the KT. It is still very effective, I can still use it as a breakthrough vehicle, yet it needs more support now, which I think is a very good concept.

The only thing I do not like about the recent nerfs and former buffs surrounding heavy armor is that certain tanks got a armor buff, while they have increase armor bulletins, while there are tanks that don't get these kind of bulletins, but get an armor nerf. It makes no sense.

But to be fair, a vet 3 and above KT will rape any Is2 anyway, I find the Is2 sluggish, its turret traverse is horrible and it somehow has one of the most horrible pathing ever.

Again, just wondering about any other bulletins for the KT, no more!
20 Jul 2015, 12:17 PM
#9
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KT is good, only IS-2 needs to be nerfed a bit in armour rest is finerino
20 Jul 2015, 12:27 PM
#10
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A Jadgtiger or a more diverse force of tanks will get you farther than a KT will against a smart opponent. Personally I think they should just move the KT to a new commander (and give said commander out free) and replace the KT in the HQ with an MG34 and replace the MG34 in it's doctrines with the MG42.
20 Jul 2015, 12:32 PM
#11
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Speaking slightly off subject, and from old statistics, in alpha, I seen KTs get melted, straight up melted. And it isn't all from emplacements either.
20 Jul 2015, 12:35 PM
#12
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JT with 1 or 2 tiers will always beat a KT.
20 Jul 2015, 12:42 PM
#13
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JT with 1 or 2 tiers will always beat a KT.


My face when I get a JT and start 1 shotting every single light vehicle on the map



King Pleb users will never know this feel.
20 Jul 2015, 12:54 PM
#14
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Guys, this is not a thread about the functionality or performance of the KT, just a thread about the bulletins you can get for it. It seems you can only get the 10% faster veterancy bulletin.

So please don't turn this into a flame/hatefull KT NEED TO BE STRONKER --> NO IT NEEDS NURFSSS NOWWWWAH thread.
20 Jul 2015, 13:16 PM
#16
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OP I don't see anyone flaming or hating? You got your answer, let others discuss their opinions. I mean just don't come back to this thread then...
20 Jul 2015, 14:02 PM
#17
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KT is good, only IS-2 needs to be nerfed a bit in armour rest is finerino

Agreed.
KT is fine. Look at his AOE dmg... just use him properly.. he shouldnt be immortal to 10 Jacksons
20 Jul 2015, 15:53 PM
#18
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 14:02 PMSwonVIP

Agreed.
KT is fine. Look at his AOE dmg... just use him properly.. he shouldnt be immortal to 10 Jacksons


immortal ? :loco: captured raketens penetrate it, Zis penetrates it, E8 and T34/85 more often than not, just about every tank hunter there is.. the only thing left KT's got goin' for is it's huge pool of health, which is also countered by a whole bunch of game mechanics available to competent players as mark target, P47's, and I don't even wanna think about 17 pounders, Firefly's and who knows what sort of Air raids ... that are coming our way.

Point is you have to sacrifice a LOT if not borderline "everything" in the vehicles department as OKW just to field one KT early enough to give it a chance to be sort of a gamechanger and be able to vet more than level 1, which is very unsatisfying for a OKW player who prefers the KT as a fighting unit. And such unit shouldn't be allowed to be melted literally in seconds as it is now, no matter how good the counterplay is.

From my obviously biased but experienced perspective; KT is either a noobhammer in the games that you managed to win already with infantry only, or instant resources waste and deathtrap against skilled, and well coordinated team players. Which is a very wrong niche for such a trademark heavy unit.
20 Jul 2015, 16:04 PM
#20
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 11:10 AM$nuffy
Simply put, there is NONE !

Only the mentioned 10% Vet up bulletin. That's why as a sign of protest I troll around with 3 of them stacked.

It's a damn shame how KT is being treated, bulletinwise and regarding the recent armor and blitz nerf.

Presently and effectively since IS2 has an armor bulletin and KT doesnt, it's armor value can be greater than that of the KT, which is imho, plain silly.

On the other hand with blitz bein' marginally useless on the KT, the unit really lacks any kind of countermeasure except it's potent frontal armor, which is also debatable after the nerf..

I see fewer and fewer Tiger II's in even large team games, and there's a an obvious reason behind it.

all trucks converted, too expensive, too late, and too vulnerable to practically anything except infantry.

"swarm" of (two) mediums own it, ranged tank hunters own it, airstrikes own it, even smart arty play owns it.

So Sapienti sat.

I would really love to see some kind of buffs to the KT at least in the form of available upgrades..
I completely agree. The best solution would be to give the KT actually decent veterancy bonuses. Right now the vet is one of the worst ingame - even with 5 stars.
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