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M10 probably is the best Allies TD after faust nerf

13 Jul 2015, 14:31 PM
#21
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But why? Just eat the cheese you encounter when playing them and convert to pussykingism :snfPeter:


Because I hate their design, I hate their trash stock units, I hate their call in, I hate their cheese, I hate Katyusha, I hate ISU, I hate B4, I hate commies, I hate Stalin, I hate Mao and his bullshit, I hate China, and I hate Katitof. :foreveralone:
13 Jul 2015, 14:33 PM
#22
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I don't agree that they are the best allied TDs. The m10 is certainly a viable TD but the need for it to flank heavier tanks inevitably exposes it to more enemy AT guns.

When there are SU85s or Jacksons on the field, you'll have to expose your AT guns on the front line because otherwise they can't support your armored spearhead against 60 range tank destroyers. If the enemy tank destroyers need to flank, you can keep your AT guns in a more safe position behind your armored spearhead and they can still support your tanks from there.


True, but M10 being the best allied TD reffers not only to its qualities but also reflects the fact that unlike M36 it can be spawned in large numbers which is a serious advantage. Believe it or not, I loved the armor doctrine even before USF TDs were buffed.
I sincerely admit though that I didn't play USF since a while now, but if M10 is even better now that it used to be n the past with no price change, I can see what Porygon means.
13 Jul 2015, 14:36 PM
#23
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 14:31 PMPorygon


Because I hate their design, I hate their trash stock units, I hate their call in, I hate their cheese, I hate Katyusha, I hate ISU, I hate B4, I hate commies, I hate Stalin, I hate Mao and his bullshit, I hate China, and I hate Katitof. :foreveralone:


So are you gonna try them after the glorious British release? No more choosy design, ability to use different trash stock units at once to make them less trash, less callins, and less cheetos to eat :snfBarton:
13 Jul 2015, 14:37 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 14:29 PMJohnnyB


Man you are thinking the same way I do so I deserve to be in 200 top players too :P

Or he deserves to be called an utterly biased idiot if we apply reverse logic here :snfBarton: but since I'm polite, let it be your way.

jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 14:31 PMPorygon


Because I hate their design, I hate their trash stock units, I hate their call in, I hate their cheese, I hate commies, I hate Stalin, I hate Mao and his bullshit, I hate China, and I hate Katitof. :foreveralone:

First 4 things, well, you have something in common with all soviet players then.
Last one, its the passionate love :megusta:
13 Jul 2015, 14:39 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 14:31 PMPorygon


Because I hate their design, I hate their trash stock units, I hate their call in, I hate their cheese, I hate Katyusha, I hate ISU, I hate B4, I hate commies, I hate Stalin, I hate Mao and his bullshit, I hate China, and I hate Katitof. :foreveralone:


Thats just it, if you hate all those things, then you have a lot in common with most Soviet players. Stock Soviets needs a buff so that callins can become weaker without destroying the faction. The next player that says "but Soviets were designed as a callin faction" will get a punch to the throat.
13 Jul 2015, 14:39 PM
#26
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So are you gonna try them after the glorious British release? No more choosy design, ability to use different trash stock units at once to make them less trash, less callins, and less cheetos to eat :snfBarton:


I hate vCOH Brit, but I like COH2 Brit, if you played the alpha you may know why. :)

Alpha patched Soviet doesn't seem much different to me.
13 Jul 2015, 14:43 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 14:39 PMPorygon


I hate vCOH Brit, but I like COH2 Brit, if you played the alpha you may know why. :)


I could know why, but I actually meant playing soviets, since they get a redesign too, not allies as a whole :snfQuinn:
13 Jul 2015, 15:13 PM
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Thats just it, if you hate all those things, then you have a lot in common with most Soviet players. Stock Soviets needs a buff so that callins can become weaker without destroying the faction. The next player that says "but Soviets were designed as a callin faction" will get a punch to the throat.

but Soviets were designed as a callin faction
13 Jul 2015, 15:23 PM
#29
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but Soviets were designed as a callin faction

And it clearly didn't worked out.

That is why they are getting buffs to stock units and redesign.
13 Jul 2015, 15:24 PM
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but Soviets were designed as a callin faction


13 Jul 2015, 15:47 PM
#31
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jul 2015, 16:36 PMJadame!
But stugs rape m10s


What dont they rape lol
13 Jul 2015, 15:58 PM
#32
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 15:47 PMMittens


What dont they rape lol


Other Stugs? :snfPeter:
13 Jul 2015, 16:27 PM
#33
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actually, su76 spam rapes stugs due to +10 range if you have a spotter.
13 Jul 2015, 16:32 PM
#34
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 16:27 PMJadame!
actually, su76 spam rapes stugs due to +10 range if you have a spotter.


57mm is fine too.
13 Jul 2015, 16:43 PM
#35
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Thats just it, if you hate all those things, then you have a lot in common with most Soviet players. Stock Soviets needs a buff so that callins can become weaker without destroying the faction. The next player that says "but Soviets were designed as a callin faction" will get a punch to the throat.


I dont think many people actually mind if Soviet stock units get buffed to be equal to German units, just like the design in CoH 1 US vs Wehrmacht. It worked perfectly back then.

In terms of unit diversity soviet is just as good as Ostheer, except they have this weird bullshit design that makes their units not doing their intended jobs. (ie: Maxim not being a proper HMG, Sniper shoots awfully slow but...2 men?!)
13 Jul 2015, 17:29 PM
#36
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 16:32 PMPorygon


57mm is fine too.


Yeah now that T3 is the goto tier for Ostheer the USF AT gun is a lot more viable.
14 Jul 2015, 05:40 AM
#37
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 14:37 PMKatitof

Or he deserves to be called an utterly biased idiot if we apply reverse logic here :snfBarton: but since I'm polite, let it be your way.


Katitof making a joke is like a hungry wolf pack trying to be nice.
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