This isnt that big of an issue, just dont over extend your heavy armor. Also ability is expensive and hard to keep using in the commanders that its in.
Simply a L2P issue honestly.
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12 Jul 2015, 15:58 PM
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12 Jul 2015, 16:02 PM
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Penetration increase would be the best idea as it'll help lighter vehicles (i.e. Medium tank) not get erased from the battle due to mark target. Not to mention it'll help Allies deal with heavier vehicles due to the increase penetration. Mostly the stock selection of Allied tanks for that matter will benefit giving more intensive to purchase them as well. Tis a good idea Thunderhun
Edit: Ah yes shooting down the plane should stop the ability, a bit annoying that is
Edit: Ah yes shooting down the plane should stop the ability, a bit annoying that is
12 Jul 2015, 16:11 PM
#23
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Penetration increase would be the best idea as it'll help lighter vehicles (i.e. Medium tank) not get erased from the battle due to mark target. Not to mention it'll help Allies deal with heavier vehicles due to the increase penetration. Mostly the stock selection of Allied tanks for that matter will benefit giving more intensive to purchase them as well. Tis a good idea Alex
Edit: Ah yes shooting down the plane should stop the ability, a bit annoying that is
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12 Jul 2015, 16:47 PM
#24
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Entire doctrine =/= 1 ability.
Whole horribly broken doctrine. I think it's fair deal, because anyway it should be done.
12 Jul 2015, 16:54 PM
#25
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MT is only a problem on guards motor. It's certainly needed in the partisan doctrine and it's not a super big deal in soviet mechanized doctrine.
12 Jul 2015, 17:25 PM
#26
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How is the plane getting shot down balancing it? If anything thatll make it useless becausw almost every German tank has a pintle mounted mg and okw base defense. Honestly its not even a broken ability, i dont remember the stats, but doesnt it only allow tanks to take one less hit to be destroyed?
12 Jul 2015, 18:02 PM
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In teamgames you could even make M-42 AT guns viable if mark target would grant 100% extra penetration Kreygasm!
12 Jul 2015, 18:12 PM
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In teamgames you could even make M-42 AT guns viable if mark target would grant 100% extra penetration Kreygasm!
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12 Jul 2015, 18:15 PM
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How is the plane getting shot down balancing it? If anything thatll make it useless becausw almost every German tank has a pintle mounted mg and okw base defense. Honestly its not even a broken ability, i dont remember the stats, but doesnt it only allow tanks to take one less hit to be destroyed?
No... it increases all damage done against its target by 50% (maybe more tbh) and keeps sight on it.
Basically jacksons can 4 shot a tiger with this ability... So if you have 2 jacksons, before the tiger can even reverse its dead.
Also pairing this ability with the USF rocket aircraft is also pretty much a guaranteed dead heavy tank.
On its own, with its T34/85s (say in a 1v1) its not tooooo bad. But when paired with Jacksons/SU85/ISU152/Rocket airstrike, this ability is just too much.
12 Jul 2015, 18:16 PM
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No... it increases all damage done against its target by 50% (maybe more tbh)
Basically jacksons can 4 shot a tiger with this ability... So if you have 2 jacksons, before the tiger can even reverse its dead.
Its either 30% or 35%, used to be 50% afaik but they dropped it. Could even stack it before
12 Jul 2015, 18:32 PM
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SU players cant counter axis heavy spam without mark target
12 Jul 2015, 18:39 PM
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No... it increases all damage done against its target by 50% (maybe more tbh) and keeps sight on it.
It was +50% a long time ago, now it is +30% to dmg.
12 Jul 2015, 18:46 PM
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It was +50% a long time ago, now it is +30% to dmg.
Soviet version is +30%
OKW version is +50%
12 Jul 2015, 18:48 PM
#34
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SU players cant counter axis heavy spam without mark target
What spam, heavies were limited to 1.
12 Jul 2015, 19:07 PM
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But the new Mark Target with penetration buff would actually HELP Allies more.
Medium tanks would have a greater chance to pen while TDs would have near certain penetration.
There be more incentive to pay for a T-34-76 given you can combine Mark Target to combat a Panzer 4 or even Panther depending on how big the penetration buff is.
This means more consistent damage per minute rather than a roll of the dice with Mark Target.
Also OKW flak turrets were nerfed some time ago and MG pintle machine guns are a soft counter and rather finicky with air cover. There always should be some counter play with powerful abilities.
Medium tanks would have a greater chance to pen while TDs would have near certain penetration.
There be more incentive to pay for a T-34-76 given you can combine Mark Target to combat a Panzer 4 or even Panther depending on how big the penetration buff is.
This means more consistent damage per minute rather than a roll of the dice with Mark Target.
Also OKW flak turrets were nerfed some time ago and MG pintle machine guns are a soft counter and rather finicky with air cover. There always should be some counter play with powerful abilities.
12 Jul 2015, 19:13 PM
#36
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It could be changed for penetration baff or ROF/accuracy baff.
12 Jul 2015, 19:41 PM
#37
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35% extra damage non stackable (used to be 50% stackable)
Haven't check the files, just what the changelog shows.
120 > 162 (Su76)
160 > 216 (Most sources)
240 > 324 (ISU and KV2)
Taking into account the 160/216 damage.
640HP: 4/3
800HP: 5/4
960HP: 6/5
1040HP: 7/5
1280HP: 8/6
The thing is, you need to be able to penetrate. If it was a plain increase on penetration, it would help other vehicles and be less RNG dependant, but results might or might not be the same or worst.
Mark vehicle rewards flanks and overwhelming a target. Increasing penetration would mean more frontal shots hitting the target.
Design wise, it would make sense to go for an increased penetration instead of damage, as this is the direction the game has been taking.
Regarding Guard Motor: i always thought that the problem are not the 85s on itself, rather than the whole synergy and mark vehicle. 85s are not a problem on the other 2 doctrines.
Haven't check the files, just what the changelog shows.
120 > 162 (Su76)
160 > 216 (Most sources)
240 > 324 (ISU and KV2)
Taking into account the 160/216 damage.
640HP: 4/3
800HP: 5/4
960HP: 6/5
1040HP: 7/5
1280HP: 8/6
The thing is, you need to be able to penetrate. If it was a plain increase on penetration, it would help other vehicles and be less RNG dependant, but results might or might not be the same or worst.
Mark vehicle rewards flanks and overwhelming a target. Increasing penetration would mean more frontal shots hitting the target.
Design wise, it would make sense to go for an increased penetration instead of damage, as this is the direction the game has been taking.
Regarding Guard Motor: i always thought that the problem are not the 85s on itself, rather than the whole synergy and mark vehicle. 85s are not a problem on the other 2 doctrines.
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12 Jul 2015, 21:30 PM
#38
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OKW base defense still shoot planes down??? update your coh2 man
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12 Jul 2015, 23:44 PM
#39
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Tho when the game reaches moment when KT/JT/Ele + Pak43 fest begins, without mark target is damn hard to do anything.
13 Jul 2015, 00:12 AM
#40
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Tho when the games reaches moment when KT/JT/Ele + Pak43 fest begins, without mark target is damn hard to do anything.
Mark Target that gave more pen instead of damage would be a lot better against JT's, KT's and Elefants.
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