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Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2015, 19:52 PMWhat Doth Life?!

Do the Thompson sub-machine gun medium and long range buffs affect the Lieutenant and Captain Thompsons?

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2015, 19:52 PMWhat Doth Life?!

Do the Thompson sub-machine gun medium and long range buffs affect the Lieutenant and Captain Thompsons?

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2015, 21:30 PMMr. Someguy

| | accuracy: {
| | | far: 0.115f;
| | | mid: 0.173f;
| | | near: 0.575f;

| | accuracy: {
| | | far: 0.2f;
| | | mid: 0.43f;
| | | near: 0.575f;

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2015, 21:47 PMSesleri

Yep only paratrooper thompsons changed:

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| | accuracy: {
| | | far: 0.115f;
| | | mid: 0.173f;
| | | near: 0.575f;

changed to

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| | accuracy: {
| | | far: 0.2f;
| | | mid: 0.43f;
| | | near: 0.575f;

Captain thompsons not touched

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2015, 23:42 PMEtherealDragon

You mean the Vehicle Crew thompsons ability is still worthless then? How disappointing.

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2015, 23:42 PMEtherealDragon

You mean the Vehicle Crew thompsons ability is still worthless then? How disappointing.

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2015, 23:59 PMMr. Someguy

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2015, 23:59 PMMr. Someguy

Actually it probably does, I'm going to assume Vehicle Crews get the Paratrooper variant based on the following reasoning:

There are 3 Thompsons: Captain, Paratrooper, and Ranger. At release the Captain Thompson did over 25 DPS, and the Ranger Thompson was added to the game after release. So vehicle crews most likely use the Paratrooper version. Can any actual stat miners confirm my assumptions?

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2015, 23:20 PMMr. Someguy

Can I get a DPS chart on the new Conscript and Partisan PPSh's?

Also, does the Accuracy vs Snipers effect JLI or Pathfinders? I know that sometimes my Infantry yell "Sniper!" when they encounter JLI, which is why I'm wondering if they're counted as sniper type.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 01:36 AMWhat Doth Life?!

This makes absolutely no sense. A great example of Relic overly-complicating their game when all Thompsons/Kar98/Mosin Nagant et al should be identical so players know what to expect.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 01:44 AMMr. Someguy

That's a terrible idea, the weapon file more or less determines the unit's offensive stats like damage and accuracy, the model itself only determines cost and durability. If everyone used the same weapon file, they'd all perform the same in combat. Osttruppen and Obersoldaten both doing the same damage, Maxim Crews and Guard Rifles as well. You could change that with squad modifiers, but that's even more complicated than just having different weapon files.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 03:43 AMWhat Doth Life?!

I mean... it would be a huge 180, but the weapons should be the same and the units themselves should be where the accuracy and cooldown (etc) stats come from. Doesn't that make sense?

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 03:43 AMWhat Doth Life?!

I mean... it would be a huge 180, but the weapons should be the same and the units themselves should be where the accuracy and cooldown (etc) stats come from. Doesn't that make sense?

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 15:57 PMhannibalbarcajr

So does the guards squad PPSH in lend lease not get buffed like conscript PPSH? They underperform for being "elite" doctrinal infantry

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 20:38 PMelchino7

They are using Shocktroop profile IIRC

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 04:16 AMMr. Someguy

I think I see what you mean, the offensive and defensive stats should be based on the model, while the weapon is only penetration, reload, etc? It would make sense for droppable weapons, like Obersoldaten picking up a BAR being better than Osttruppen finding one, but it would require recoding not just the entire small arms system but every unit. And I'm not sure how it would work on Tanks, which use multiple guns with varying degrees of effectiveness.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 15:57 PMhannibalbarcajr

So does the guards squad PPSH in lend lease not get buffed like conscript PPSH? They underperform for being "elite" doctrinal infantry

Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 00:41 AMWhat Doth Life?!

Didn't the Assault Guards PPSH get buffed or ninja-buffed recently?