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What I want about T34-85s

22 Jun 2015, 13:21 PM
#1
avatar of DontyouknowKim

Posts: 49

How about this one

after 23rd patch

1. Soviets need tech T1 or T2 - T3 -T4

2. super heavy tank needs T4

3. T3 units are t70 su76 HT - T4 units are t34-85 su85 katu

4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2

5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76

6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp


t34-76`s call in value

in mid game t34-76 can be good like stug-e or m10

in late game t34-85 can be feel like too expensive to ram

but you can build instant ramming tank


if you think t34-85s still too strong then make it 640hp


some other things

yagdpanzer and p2`s cautious movement speed needs to be like zis` ambush movement speed

zis` rifles should not shoot when it`s ambushed

if one strafe plane is crushed, charging time needs to be double or 4/3

conscript`s body(not even moving) should not have vision

IR HT costs at least 5 fuel

ptrs`s ai dps down


Any Ideas?
22 Jun 2015, 14:32 PM
#2
avatar of Mittens
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Posts: 1276

Maybe some of those are possible but we never know whats going to happen to solvs.

4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2

5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76

6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp


Are something that needs explaining. No one would go advanced warfare simply becuz the t-34/76 is inconsistent in its performance. Maybe making the 85 a standard unit would be a better option and allow for the 76 to fit somewhere in there as a call in like the m10
22 Jun 2015, 14:35 PM
#3
avatar of Katitof

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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jun 2015, 14:32 PMMittens
Maybe some of those are possible but we never know whats going to happen to sovs.

We actually do.
Just are not allowed to talk about it.

Side note:
LOL advanced warfare T34/76
22 Jun 2015, 14:40 PM
#4
avatar of DontyouknowKim

Posts: 49

jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jun 2015, 14:32 PMMittens
Maybe some of those are possible but we never know whats going to happen to solvs.

4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2

5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76

6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp


Are something that needs explaining. No one would go advanced warfare simply becuz the t-34/76 is inconsistent in its performance.


actually no one go advanced warfare tho

in mid game t34-76 can be good like stug-e or m10

in late game t34-85 can be feel like too expensive to ram

but you can build instant ramming tank

22 Jun 2015, 14:46 PM
#5
avatar of Mittens
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Posts: 1276

Remember that Relic said there was more to come from their Soviet restructuring so we can only expect that they will adjust tech and the the T-34/76 and 85's.:snfPeter::snfPeter::snfPeter:

22 Jun 2015, 14:58 PM
#6
avatar of Aladdin

Posts: 959

How about this one

after 23rd patch

1. Soviets need tech T1 or T2 - T3 -T4

2. super heavy tank needs T4

3. T3 units are t70 su76 HT - T4 units are t34-85 su85 katu

4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2

5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76

6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp


some other things

yagdpanzer and p2`s cautious movement speed needs to be like zis` ambush movement speed

zis` rifles should not shoot when it`s ambushed

if one strafe plane is crushed, charging time needs to be double or 4/3

conscript`s body(not even moving) should not have vision

IR HT costs at least 5 fuel

ptrs`s ai dps down


Any Ideas?


T34/85 stock soviet unit?! lol
22 Jun 2015, 14:59 PM
#7
avatar of DontyouknowKim

Posts: 49

jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jun 2015, 14:46 PMMittens
Remember that Relic said there was more to come from their Soviet restructuring so we can only expect that they will adjust tech and the the T-34/76 and 85's.:snfPeter::snfPeter::snfPeter:



yes that`s what i want thx

the only problem with adjusting soviet`s tech is T4 t34-76

i think that doesn`t make sense, similar timing with panther

relic can solve the problem with this idea
22 Jun 2015, 15:00 PM
#8
avatar of DontyouknowKim

Posts: 49

jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jun 2015, 14:58 PMAladdin


T34/85 stock soviet unit?! lol


that needs T3 and T4 similar timing with panther
22 Jun 2015, 15:07 PM
#9
avatar of newvan

Posts: 354

that needs T3 and T4 similar timing with panther

And imagine something very similar, but with T-34/85 only for doctrines and t-34/76 for others, NDA...NDA.
22 Jun 2015, 15:08 PM
#10
avatar of DontyouknowKim

Posts: 49

jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jun 2015, 14:35 PMKatitof

We actually do.
Just are not allowed to talk about it.

Side note:
LOL advanced warfare T34/76


in mid game t34-76 can be good like stug-e or m10

in late game t34-85 can be feel like too expensive to ram

but you can build instant ramming tank

i dont think its kinda joke

if they change the tech system, t34-76 can be valueable
22 Jun 2015, 15:10 PM
#11
avatar of DontyouknowKim

Posts: 49

jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jun 2015, 15:07 PMnewvan
And imagine something very similar, but with T-34/85 only for doctrines and t-34/76 for others, NDA...NDA.


think outside the box :D
22 Jun 2015, 15:19 PM
#12
avatar of braciszek

Posts: 2053


but you can build instant ramming tank


No one ever builds a t34 just for ramming, and one only rams when they know itll kill something that costs more than a t34.

So, once in a blue moon. The t34 cant be renowned for its ability to be a very ineffective suicide tank.
22 Jun 2015, 15:21 PM
#13
avatar of WingZero

Posts: 1484

If Soviets are getting redesigned, why not make T-34/85s non doctrinal and give all the cons PPSH!
22 Jun 2015, 15:28 PM
#14
avatar of DontyouknowKim

Posts: 49



No one ever builds a t34 just for ramming, and one only rams when they know itll kill something that costs more than a t34.

So, once in a blue moon. The t34 cant be renowned for its ability to be a very ineffective suicide tank.


You can use it and ram in a perfect timing

why do you get it like that?
22 Jun 2015, 15:30 PM
#15
avatar of ferwiner
Donator 11

Posts: 2885

85's should be non doctrinal. Then they can be ballanced at last. Alpha option is half way as it won't solve problem of soviets having 80% of doctrines never used. But maybe its good enough and they will do something about doctrines in the future as ostheer suffers the same disease.
22 Jun 2015, 15:36 PM
#16
avatar of HolyUnlyrical_Lyrics

Posts: 120

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Your thoughst are good, it is very wise to rethink the current teching circumstances and you seem to get the graps of the game's biggest problem.

Your suggestions on the other hand are not that great. A t34-76 call in would be the death blow to any commander and would further reinforce the call in situation. A t34-76 call in would be very weird.

t34-85 should be doctrinal, but require teching. Unlock them cp wise, than have a tier 4 building that requires you to build them before you can use them! Same should go with IS2, Tiger, Elefant, Jagdtiger, Panzer 4 J group, Sherman E8, M10 etc etc. (different tier requirements of course)
22 Jun 2015, 15:45 PM
#17
avatar of Aladdin

Posts: 959

How about this one

after 23rd patch

1. Soviets need tech T1 or T2 - T3 -T4

2. super heavy tank needs T4

3. T3 units are t70 su76 HT - T4 units are t34-85 su85 katu

4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2

5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76

6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp


t34-76`s call in value

in mid game t34-76 can be good like stug-e or m10

in late game t34-85 can be feel like too expensive to ram

but you can build instant ramming tank



some other things

yagdpanzer and p2`s cautious movement speed needs to be like zis` ambush movement speed

zis` rifles should not shoot when it`s ambushed

if one strafe plane is crushed, charging time needs to be double or 4/3

conscript`s body(not even moving) should not have vision

IR HT costs at least 5 fuel

ptrs`s ai dps down


Any Ideas?


Man, even Katitof wouldn't suggest such things! but nice effort :)
22 Jun 2015, 15:50 PM
#18
avatar of Aladdin

Posts: 959



that needs T3 and T4 similar timing with panther


That would remove T34/76 totally from the game, and 80-90 fuel t34/76 coming right after Stug-e doesn't make sense, plus being t34/85 in t4 to match panther's arrival time needs lots of tech adjustment and if so, can u imagine how late T34/85 and more importantly Katusha arrives in the game?

Indeed, if Katusha arrives that late it will be a big nerf for soviet.
22 Jun 2015, 17:22 PM
#19
avatar of DontyouknowKim

Posts: 49

jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jun 2015, 15:50 PMAladdin


That would remove T34/76 totally from the game, and 80-90 fuel t34/76 coming right after Stug-e doesn't make sense, plus being t34/85 in t4 to match panther's arrival time needs lots of tech adjustment and if so, can u imagine how late T34/85 and more importantly Katusha arrives in the game?

Indeed, if Katusha arrives that late it will be a big nerf for soviet.


t34 or sherman right after stug-e is obvious in present

think about panzerwerfer
22 Jun 2015, 17:47 PM
#20
avatar of Aladdin

Posts: 959



t34 or sherman right after stug-e is obvious in present

think about panzerwerfer


No, with t34 u are forcing him to tech to t34 with stug e, but imagine call in t34 76!!!! the game would be lol ridiculous bro! just think!!!

also pw is indeed useless, that doesn't mean the should change the game the way katusha turns into a useless thing as well, but also pw needs adjustment for what it is now, it's just underperfoming more than any other unit in the game along with the Lefh arty and everyone knows that
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