How about this one
after 23rd patch
1. Soviets need tech T1 or T2 - T3 -T4
2. super heavy tank needs T4
3. T3 units are t70 su76 HT - T4 units are t34-85 su85 katu
4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2
5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76
6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp
t34-76`s call in value
in mid game t34-76 can be good like stug-e or m10
in late game t34-85 can be feel like too expensive to ram
but you can build instant ramming tank
if you think t34-85s still too strong then make it 640hp
some other things
yagdpanzer and p2`s cautious movement speed needs to be like zis` ambush movement speed
zis` rifles should not shoot when it`s ambushed
if one strafe plane is crushed, charging time needs to be double or 4/3
conscript`s body(not even moving) should not have vision
IR HT costs at least 5 fuel
ptrs`s ai dps down
Any Ideas?
What I want about T34-85s
22 Jun 2015, 13:21 PM
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22 Jun 2015, 14:32 PM
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Maybe some of those are possible but we never know whats going to happen to solvs.
4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2
5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76
6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp
Are something that needs explaining. No one would go advanced warfare simply becuz the t-34/76 is inconsistent in its performance. Maybe making the 85 a standard unit would be a better option and allow for the 76 to fit somewhere in there as a call in like the m10
4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2
5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76
6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp
Are something that needs explaining. No one would go advanced warfare simply becuz the t-34/76 is inconsistent in its performance. Maybe making the 85 a standard unit would be a better option and allow for the 76 to fit somewhere in there as a call in like the m10
22 Jun 2015, 14:35 PM
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Maybe some of those are possible but we never know whats going to happen to sovs.
We actually do.
Just are not allowed to talk about it.
Side note:
LOL advanced warfare T34/76
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
22 Jun 2015, 14:40 PM
#4
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Maybe some of those are possible but we never know whats going to happen to solvs.
4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2
5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76
6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp
Are something that needs explaining. No one would go advanced warfare simply becuz the t-34/76 is inconsistent in its performance.
actually no one go advanced warfare tho
in mid game t34-76 can be good like stug-e or m10
in late game t34-85 can be feel like too expensive to ram
but you can build instant ramming tank
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22 Jun 2015, 14:46 PM
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Remember that Relic said there was more to come from their Soviet restructuring so we can only expect that they will adjust tech and the the T-34/76 and 85's.
22 Jun 2015, 14:58 PM
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How about this one
after 23rd patch
1. Soviets need tech T1 or T2 - T3 -T4
2. super heavy tank needs T4
3. T3 units are t70 su76 HT - T4 units are t34-85 su85 katu
4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2
5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76
6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp
some other things
yagdpanzer and p2`s cautious movement speed needs to be like zis` ambush movement speed
zis` rifles should not shoot when it`s ambushed
if one strafe plane is crushed, charging time needs to be double or 4/3
conscript`s body(not even moving) should not have vision
IR HT costs at least 5 fuel
ptrs`s ai dps down
Any Ideas?
T34/85 stock soviet unit?! lol
22 Jun 2015, 14:59 PM
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Remember that Relic said there was more to come from their Soviet restructuring so we can only expect that they will adjust tech and the the T-34/76 and 85's.
yes that`s what i want thx
the only problem with adjusting soviet`s tech is T4 t34-76
i think that doesn`t make sense, similar timing with panther
relic can solve the problem with this idea
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22 Jun 2015, 15:00 PM
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T34/85 stock soviet unit?! lol
that needs T3 and T4 similar timing with panther
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22 Jun 2015, 15:07 PM
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Posts: 354
that needs T3 and T4 similar timing with panther
And imagine something very similar, but with T-34/85 only for doctrines and t-34/76 for others, NDA...NDA.
22 Jun 2015, 15:08 PM
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We actually do.
Just are not allowed to talk about it.
Side note:
LOL advanced warfare T34/76
in mid game t34-76 can be good like stug-e or m10
in late game t34-85 can be feel like too expensive to ram
but you can build instant ramming tank
i dont think its kinda joke
if they change the tech system, t34-76 can be valueable
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22 Jun 2015, 15:10 PM
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And imagine something very similar, but with T-34/85 only for doctrines and t-34/76 for others, NDA...NDA.
think outside the box
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22 Jun 2015, 15:19 PM
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but you can build instant ramming tank
No one ever builds a t34 just for ramming, and one only rams when they know itll kill something that costs more than a t34.
So, once in a blue moon. The t34 cant be renowned for its ability to be a very ineffective suicide tank.
22 Jun 2015, 15:21 PM
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If Soviets are getting redesigned, why not make T-34/85s non doctrinal and give all the cons PPSH!
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22 Jun 2015, 15:28 PM
#14
Posts: 49
No one ever builds a t34 just for ramming, and one only rams when they know itll kill something that costs more than a t34.
So, once in a blue moon. The t34 cant be renowned for its ability to be a very ineffective suicide tank.
You can use it and ram in a perfect timing
why do you get it like that?
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22 Jun 2015, 15:30 PM
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85's should be non doctrinal. Then they can be ballanced at last. Alpha option is half way as it won't solve problem of soviets having 80% of doctrines never used. But maybe its good enough and they will do something about doctrines in the future as ostheer suffers the same disease.
22 Jun 2015, 15:36 PM
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Permanently BannedYour thoughst are good, it is very wise to rethink the current teching circumstances and you seem to get the graps of the game's biggest problem.
Your suggestions on the other hand are not that great. A t34-76 call in would be the death blow to any commander and would further reinforce the call in situation. A t34-76 call in would be very weird.
t34-85 should be doctrinal, but require teching. Unlock them cp wise, than have a tier 4 building that requires you to build them before you can use them! Same should go with IS2, Tiger, Elefant, Jagdtiger, Panzer 4 J group, Sherman E8, M10 etc etc. (different tier requirements of course)
Your suggestions on the other hand are not that great. A t34-76 call in would be the death blow to any commander and would further reinforce the call in situation. A t34-76 call in would be very weird.
t34-85 should be doctrinal, but require teching. Unlock them cp wise, than have a tier 4 building that requires you to build them before you can use them! Same should go with IS2, Tiger, Elefant, Jagdtiger, Panzer 4 J group, Sherman E8, M10 etc etc. (different tier requirements of course)
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22 Jun 2015, 15:45 PM
#17
Posts: 959
How about this one
after 23rd patch
1. Soviets need tech T1 or T2 - T3 -T4
2. super heavy tank needs T4
3. T3 units are t70 su76 HT - T4 units are t34-85 su85 katu
4. replace guard motor`s t34-85s with IS-2
5. replace advanced warfare and armored assault`s t34-85 with t34-76
6. t34-76 costs 80-90 fuel and need 7-8 cp
t34-76`s call in value
in mid game t34-76 can be good like stug-e or m10
in late game t34-85 can be feel like too expensive to ram
but you can build instant ramming tank
some other things
yagdpanzer and p2`s cautious movement speed needs to be like zis` ambush movement speed
zis` rifles should not shoot when it`s ambushed
if one strafe plane is crushed, charging time needs to be double or 4/3
conscript`s body(not even moving) should not have vision
IR HT costs at least 5 fuel
ptrs`s ai dps down
Any Ideas?
Man, even Katitof wouldn't suggest such things! but nice effort
22 Jun 2015, 15:50 PM
#18
Posts: 959
that needs T3 and T4 similar timing with panther
That would remove T34/76 totally from the game, and 80-90 fuel t34/76 coming right after Stug-e doesn't make sense, plus being t34/85 in t4 to match panther's arrival time needs lots of tech adjustment and if so, can u imagine how late T34/85 and more importantly Katusha arrives in the game?
Indeed, if Katusha arrives that late it will be a big nerf for soviet.
22 Jun 2015, 17:22 PM
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Posts: 49
That would remove T34/76 totally from the game, and 80-90 fuel t34/76 coming right after Stug-e doesn't make sense, plus being t34/85 in t4 to match panther's arrival time needs lots of tech adjustment and if so, can u imagine how late T34/85 and more importantly Katusha arrives in the game?
Indeed, if Katusha arrives that late it will be a big nerf for soviet.
t34 or sherman right after stug-e is obvious in present
think about panzerwerfer
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22 Jun 2015, 17:47 PM
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t34 or sherman right after stug-e is obvious in present
think about panzerwerfer
No, with t34 u are forcing him to tech to t34 with stug e, but imagine call in t34 76!!!! the game would be lol ridiculous bro! just think!!!
also pw is indeed useless, that doesn't mean the should change the game the way katusha turns into a useless thing as well, but also pw needs adjustment for what it is now, it's just underperfoming more than any other unit in the game along with the Lefh arty and everyone knows that
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