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About Wehrmacht tech tree.

20 Jun 2015, 22:09 PM
#1
avatar of TheSleep3r

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By playing and reading these forums I believe Wehrmacht T3 and T4 are not what they should be. T3 has 'Support' in its name, yet it has everything it needs: a reliable generalist medium, an AI specialist, and, since the new patch, an AT specialist. Now the T4, last in the progressive tech tree has both AT and AI specialists and (poor at this moment) rocket artillery.

Should it be like this?

Because if we compare T3 and T4 they are roughly the same, the difference is T4 suits late game more with more powerful units. They are more a choice than a progressive tiering like in CoH1, where tier 3 was not really the best late game tactic.

If we replace Panzer IV with Panzerwerfer (where it should be, listening to voice lines) and reduce the price of T3 (but only a bit) we finally get the Support building, capable of itself but a stop-gap to the last tier, which now has a mobile generalist and heavy specialists.

It really isn't something new, it was discussed many times yet I'm not that long in the party. I'm not suggesting anything, just want to listen to opinions since I'm only a n00b with aspirations to become trooe #mlg yolo swagging blobber.
20 Jun 2015, 22:40 PM
#2
avatar of LemonJuice

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the thing is then the panzer4 comes out very very very late (like 6 or so minutes more) compared to mediums of other factions. by that time tons of anti-tank weapons will be on the field, making them panzer4 have pretty limited effectiveness.
20 Jun 2015, 22:41 PM
#3
avatar of QueenRatchet123

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Im against moving the p4.

Id personally like to see tech of the other factions changed to make them in line with ost.

for example, force linear teching, nurf rifles, decrease cost to 260mp, move 50cal to t1 and add a mortar. Keep t2 the same but move 57mm into it. place Sherman In t3 with m10. Increase the cost to compensate. In t4 there should be ez8, Jackson wand preist with elite infantry with the same stats and upgrades as paratroopers.

Sov, no linear tech for t1 and t2, force building of t3 while decreasing its price. move su76nto t3. t4 add t34/85, while forcing t3 to be built first.

My opinion is that the teching of other factions should be similar to ost.
21 Jun 2015, 03:42 AM
#4
avatar of Nuclear Arbitor
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Sov, no linear tech for t1 and t2, force building of t3 while decreasing its price. move su76nto t3. t4 add t34/85, while forcing t3 to be built first.




that sounds like a great idea, i wonder if relic will implement it....


hm....

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21 Jun 2015, 10:30 AM
#5
avatar of Fluffi

Posts: 211

[...]
If we replace Panzer IV with Panzerwerfer (where it should be, listening to voice lines) [...]


+1 exactly. It's these details, man. Game polish seems a bit sloppy otherwise.
btw same goes for the lazy generalist voice line when Obers arrive: 'Combat unit ready'; I remember it used to be sth like 'Honor Guard ready' blah blah, it was way cooler. In the idle unit speech, they also talk about 'Honor Guards' instad of 'Obersoldaten', so wth Relic, why not name them Honor Guard and use the correct voice lines?

^^Sorry, a bit off-topic, but I like to direct attention towards matters of game polish as I see it as a piece of art (don't laugh :P).

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